[P2P-F] anonymous campaign against p2p foundation

Kevin Flanagan kev.flanagan at gmail.com
Mon Nov 11 00:31:49 CET 2013

It would be a good idea to do this yearly. How we do this should be
part the ongoing P2PF development conversation.


On 10 November 2013 23:25, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
> Dear Orsan,
> I think it is a good idea to ask James to publish some kind of report about
> p2p foundation funding,  I copied him,
> Michel
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> Michel I know because you say so and I believe you, and I believe you
> because I feel it and we also met in person and spent some time. Obviously
> there are many like Heather who may be didn't meet you yet and can't believe
> you but also the fact that at this level it can be achieved by merely
> relying on your own free labour and under precarious conditions. This
> actually contradict with Heather's own experience, since what she has chosen
> to do is more about radical journalism and activism and that doesn't pay
> back at the level p2pf operates... anyway What I feel would be helpful,
> because this is what i think what is heather also most sensitive about
> (rightly as all of us), or some of us, is the feeling of injustice and being
> used. anyway forget about me and others, and just to quick fix the problem
> of possible DDoS attack, pls send Heather, even if in dutch, the year
> reports of the foundation which probably you have to publish every year and
> has to include the fiscal reports. iIn principle this is public info but
> usually they are not widely open right in the middle (just looked for but
> couldn't find on the wiki) so please send her so she has a proof, again this
> I guess would be a quick fix for the Anon campaign problem we have.
> if there is another reason behind it however it should be uncovered. while
> writing these lines i realized that her book is
> outhttp://www.amazon.com/Binding-Chaos-collaboration-global-scale/dp/1489527680/ref=pd_rhf_pe_p_t_1_CWPB
> And looks like good read with a great title 'binding chaos' which I believe
> describes very good what you Michel and we all try to do, while
> collaborating radically and creating what I call a systemic 'change value'.
> and again right now remembering that she was raising a criticism towards p2p
> economies, probably that is also part of her book and -thinking loudly- her
> anger could be theoretically informed as well...  anyway the contradiction
> here is worth to dig a bit more I think and given that the P2PF is now at a
> turning point with the recent great achievements in Ecuador and with the EU
> grant such reflection can be useful for all p2p friends. I still feel
> hopefully something very positive might come out of this.
> Orsan
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