[P2P-F] anonymous campaign against p2p foundation

james burke lifesized at gmail.com
Mon Nov 11 10:43:07 CET 2013

Hi All,

I just asked the accountant to publish a 5 year document on our
financial/tax situation.
He might take a little while.


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Michel Bauwens
<michel at p2pfoundation.net>wrote:

> Dear Orsan,
> I think it is a good idea to ask James to publish some kind of report
> about p2p foundation funding,  I copied him,
> Michel
> <<<
> From: Orsan <orsan1234 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [P2P-F] anonymous campaign against p2p-foundation
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> Michel I know because you say so and I believe you, and I believe you
> because I feel it and we also met in person and spent some time. Obviously
> there are many like Heather who may be didn't meet you yet and can't
> believe you but also the fact that at this level it can be achieved by
> merely relying on your own free labour and under precarious conditions.
> This actually contradict with Heather's own experience, since what she has
> chosen to do is more about radical journalism and activism and that doesn't
> pay back at the level p2pf operates... anyway What I feel would be helpful,
> because this is what i think what is heather also most sensitive about
> (rightly as all of us), or some of us, is the feeling of injustice and
> being used. anyway forget about me and others, and just to quick fix the
> problem of possible DDoS attack, pls send Heather, even if in dutch, the
> year reports of the foundation which probably you have to publish every
> year and has to include the fiscal reports. iIn principle this is public
> info but usually they are not widely open right in the middle (just looked
> for but couldn't find on the wiki) so please send her so she has a proof,
> again this I guess would be a quick fix for the Anon campaign problem we
> have.
> if there is another reason behind it however it should be uncovered. while
> writing these lines i realized that her book is out
> http://www.amazon.com/Binding-Chaos-collaboration-global-scale/dp/1489527680/ref=pd_rhf_pe_p_t_1_CWPB
> And looks like good read with a great title 'binding chaos' which I
> believe describes very good what you Michel and we all try to do, while
> collaborating radically and creating what I call a systemic 'change value'.
> and again right now remembering that she was raising a criticism towards
> p2p economies, probably that is also part of her book and -thinking loudly-
> her anger could be theoretically informed as well...  anyway the
> contradiction here is worth to dig a bit more I think and given that the
> P2PF is now at a turning point with the recent great achievements in
> Ecuador and with the EU grant such reflection can be useful for all p2p
> friends. I still feel hopefully something very positive might come out of
> this.
> Orsan
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