[P2P-F] Spirituality and the internet

[Michel Bauwens]

I find the Lilly diagram VERY VERY useful, many thanks, it clearly maps out
possible differences in giving value to such experiences ...

However, I'm agnostic on them, because whatever their ontological status,
they are 'real' experiences and have 'real' meaning. So for the the correct
consequence is: 1) acknowledging the experience (eye of spirit); 2)
discussing their meaning intersubjectively (eye of mind); 3) assessing their
ontological status (eye of matter, the 3 mind theory of Lilly).

I would love to read Luminarium,
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/books/review/luminarium-by-alex-shakar-book-review.html,
which directly investigates those issues ...

ha John Lilly (big bouts of nostalgia) ... yes, Richard that really shows
(y)our age <g>

for the  young amongst us: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly ...
can't remember who that was, but I once hadd long conversations with a man
who had been Lilly's librarian for years ...

Michel

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Poor Richard <poor.ricardo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Another tangent of this spirituality in the internet topic is spiritual
> machines. *The Age of Spiritual Machines*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Spiritual_Machines>is a book by
> futurist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurology> Ray Kurzweil.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil>
>
> My thoughts on the subject are on a different track from Kurzweil, but he
> may be the inventor of the general concept. My interest is focused as bit
> differently from his. I imagine a "spiritual Turing Test<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_Test>"
> in which the object is to detect whether the test taker is a human or a
> machine, but in which all the questions relate only to the subject of
> spirituality. I predict a machine will pass this test, judged by a panel of
> religious and political celebrities, in the year 2030.
>
> PR
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