[P2P-F] Libertarians

Thu Oct 20 17:32:50 CEST 2011

Politeness can win more arguments even if we believe to be treated unjustly.

2011/10/20 Mark Janssen <dreamingforward at gmail.com>

> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Sandwichman <lumpoflabor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > What an incredibly odd argument to encounter on a P2P list concerned with
> > reclaiming the commons! No one "owned" the commons in England, either.
> The
> > common people had RIGHTS, guaranteed by the Charter of the Forest, the
> > companion document to the Magna Carta. The enclosures of the commons
> usurped
> > those traditional and legally ratified rights.
> >
> > "The law locks up the man or woman. Who steals the goose from off the
> > common. But leaves the greater villain loose. Who steals the common from
> off
> > the goose."
> >
> > To say that the aboriginal people of the Western Hemisphere didn't "own"
> the
> > land is as relevant as saying they didn't read English or worship Jesus
> > Christ as their savior. Europeans stole the land by imposing their own
> > peculiar property regime, along with the metaphysics that viewed such
> > peculiarity as both natural and universal.
>
> Exactly, thank you.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have time to respond more either, but Natalie's
> points about bringing in the Western narrative (called "science") as a
> way to justify the spriritual loss are meaningless.  Sorry, fuck you.
>
> mark
>
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Sincerely yours,

     Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
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