[P2P-F] Libertarians

Thu Oct 20 16:26:51 CEST 2011

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Sandwichman <lumpoflabor at gmail.com> wrote:
> What an incredibly odd argument to encounter on a P2P list concerned with
> reclaiming the commons! No one "owned" the commons in England, either. The
> common people had RIGHTS, guaranteed by the Charter of the Forest, the
> companion document to the Magna Carta. The enclosures of the commons usurped
> those traditional and legally ratified rights.
>
> "The law locks up the man or woman. Who steals the goose from off the
> common. But leaves the greater villain loose. Who steals the common from off
> the goose."
>
> To say that the aboriginal people of the Western Hemisphere didn't "own" the
> land is as relevant as saying they didn't read English or worship Jesus
> Christ as their savior. Europeans stole the land by imposing their own
> peculiar property regime, along with the metaphysics that viewed such
> peculiarity as both natural and universal.

Exactly, thank you.

Unfortunately, I don't have time to respond more either, but Natalie's
points about bringing in the Western narrative (called "science") as a
way to justify the spriritual loss are meaningless.  Sorry, fuck you.

mark