[P2P-F] Libertarians

Mon Oct 17 20:38:02 CEST 2011

I think that this is the heart of the matter and an obvious difference
between 'left' and 'right' approaches'

it's really about how far you extend the circle of care .. for right-minded
people it's nearly always about 'just for us' and they can have deep
communautarian feelings (except probably for committed anarcho-capitalists
who only believe in individual contracting and full commodification of all
things), by contrast the left wants to extend it. ron paul finds it
acceptable to refuse entry to black people on the basis of property rights,
something no person on the left could tolerate ... natalie explicetely
rejects the quest for equality even thought the revolt against inequality is
at the heart of this movement .. but we can find commonality around freedom
..

though of course, freedom without equality is a chimera, as you need a gun
to protect you from your neighbour ...

and the greatest the differential, the greater number of guns needed (now
nearly a quarter of the workforce ?)

Michel

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Apostolis Xekoukoulot cakis <
xekoukou at gmail.com> wrote:

>    That is what a conservative libertarian would say. ''Protect the liberty
> of a certain group of people, for example the american people. This is how
> the greek athenian democrarcry worked as well. It wars a democracy for menr.
> But if we start thinking about liberty to a set of people we end up with the
> conclusion that everyone is a libertarian (take as a set only yourself ).
> That would make the use of the word libertarian unnecessary (as we all are
> libertarians). Since the word is used to differentiate between people, we
> end up through *Reductio ad absurdum *that your defintion of libertarian
> is wrong.
> We also end up with the conclusion that you are not a libertarian.
>
> As a personal remark, I would say that such a wrong definition of
> libertarian was always used as an excuse to diminish the liberties of
> others.
>
> (reading math.. right now)
>
> 2011/10/17 Natalie Golovin <10natalie at cox.net>
>
>>   Nations still exist. You can be a libertarian with regards to the
>> rights/responsibilities/privileges/policies of your own citizens wo
>> extending them to the universal
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