[P2P-F] Declaration_of_the_Occupation_of_New_York_City

Sun Oct 2 21:09:41 CEST 2011

Reich was the darling of "soft" academia in the 60's. I find him irrelevant 
as well as unappealing. My preference is the recent and pragmatic Eric 
Hoffer- a man of the people. The totalitarian left has murdered more, and 
caused far more economic despair than the Fascist right. Dictators demand 
unitary power/control to engineer/impose their egotistical world-views. 
Fascist corporatism has many more voices and simpler motives. My "take" on 
Libertarianism is that it couldn't be a mask for its own gain- because there 
are no real leaders-no central authority. We ask for a limited, intelligent 
and competent political structure that will act as honest watch-dog, 
moderator, umpire, referee- to negotiate competing demands in a free-market 
society. The rewriting of the Interstate Commerce Clause helped removed govt 
from local democratic control. Abuses contributing to the current crisis 
have been the result of collusion among global corporate and political 
leaders with the eager assistance of an unethical financial community.
From: ideasinc at ee.net
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Declaration_of_the_Occupation_of_New_York_City

Natalie,
Wilhelm Reich wrote an excellent book, that generally is ignored. The
title is the "Mass Psychology of Fascism." it is based upon his direct
experience of the rise of Nazi fascism in Germany and of his direct
contact with Stalinist communists which he also describes as a form of
fascism. Then there are the various degrees of totalitarianism. Both are
very similar by the enforced conformity to authority. "Libertarianism" as
a concept has also been used to provide an acceptable appearance for other
forms of authoritarianism, most notably the siege against small "d"
democracy and the role of governance to protect and preserve the commons
in its many forms. The Libertarian Party in the US has been gathering
point for nominal conservatives who operate to diminish the commons in
multiple contexts. Sticking to the outcomes and objectives as would be
expected in a democratic process does seem like a better way to define and
sustain an open process. Yes, there is a substantial potential problems
when appearance and labels are accepted as either adequate or applicable.
In short you, imo, are quite correct in being suspicious of labeling as
basis for political correctness.

Tadit

On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:19:19 -0400, Natalie Golovin <10natalie at cox.net>
wrote:

> Declaration will cause movement to lose a lot of support. You may say
> you don’t care about Libertarians anyway-not very democratic attitude.
> When the Left gets going it’s more frightening than the Corporatocracy
>
> From: Michel Bauwens
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:14 AM
> To: p2p-foundation
> Cc: Amaia Arcos
> Subject: [P2P-F] Declaration_of_the_Occupation_of_New_York_City
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Declaration_of_the_Occupation_of_New_York_City
>
> Dear Amaia, can you publish this on our blog?
>
> Michel

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