[P2P-F] must watch on future of internet: who agrees ?

[Michel Bauwens]

this is an old and recurring discussion, and a charge I disagree with .. .I
participated in different free culture forums, except the last one, and the
debates around the material basis of free culture were actually the most
sophisticated i have witnessed anywhere ... I think the free culture =
loves only cyberspace is mostly a strawman ... material infrastructures,
business and sustainability models for creators, and ownership issues were
at the core of the discussions ...

some people seem to believe that the recognition of emergent properties
means a denial of other and sustaining layers, but it is not, it is a
necessary differntiation, but it has to be seen in its relation and
embeddedness to material infrastructures


On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:01 AM, mp <mp at aktivix.org> wrote:

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> On 20/11/11 17:58, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > I don't think it matters directly .. but it is definitely a silicon
> valley
> > tech investor mentality, intend on re-introducing monetization of
> > everything on the internet and he's confident they will succeed ...
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> .... and the monetization is particularly possible because of the
> material aspects of the internet combined with ownership relations,
> which is why it is philosophically problematic and politically
> disempowering, I think, that the "free culture" movement perpetuates the
> "immaterial myth", by contrasting cyberspace to "real space" and on that
> basis arguing for exceptions in cyberspace. One step forward and two
> steps back.
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