[P2P-F] OSE Europe - Open Process

Thu Nov 10 16:56:10 CET 2011

Would love to see David do an interview on this.  

Also, would be more than happy to put out a request for translators interested in joining a virtual cooperative. 

Sincerely,

JR

________________________________
From: Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
To: David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop>
Cc: Neal Gorenflo <neal at shareable.net>; P2P Foundation mailing list <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>; John Robb <globalguerrillas at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [P2P-F] OSE Europe - Open Process

ok, waiting 4 neal's ok,

Micel

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop> wrote:

Nope :-( We are trying to organize a coop of translators in our group (as we could be an excellent first customer) but by the moment I have everything in Spanish...
>
>
>
>On 10/11/11 03:51, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>have you explained this vision in an english text?
>>
>>I would also suggest Neal and I interview you on this topic 4 a
>>shareable interview bk we are doing,
>>
>>Michel
>>
>>On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM, David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop
>>
>><mailto:david at lasindias.coop>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>       my take is that lasindias would be happy with a phyle-based
>>       capitalism,
>>       while my endeavour is more clearly post-capitalist, but I may be
>>       wrong,
>>
>>
>>   Not really, we are happy in a free market system but free market is
>>   not capitalism. Capitalism is about the power and access to capital.
>>   Phyle mutualism is about market, of course, but is not capitalism as
>>   capital is a common, invisible, good there. No power on capital when
>>   you have free access to capital.
>>
>>   The «source oriented» economy is about demerchantilization, meaning
>>   a comunist model for all society: no money, no merchandise... no
>>   interchange, just donation. Something as information is in the
>>   blogsphere. It needs some kind of abundance in phisical goods
>>   similar to informational abundance provided by distributed networks
>>   in Internet.
>>
>>   Probably productivity allows our generation to build a communist
>>   society in information and a free market mutualist (but also
>>   competitive) society in the goods markets... but no more.
>>
>>
>>   --
>>   David de Ugarte
>>   Grupo Cooperativo de las Indias
>>   http://grupolasindias.coop
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
>>
>>Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
>>http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
>>
>>Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
>>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>>
>>
>
>
>-- 
>David de Ugarte
>Grupo Cooperativo de las Indias
>http://grupolasindias.coop
>

-- 
P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net 

Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation

Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ourproject.org/pipermail/p2p-foundation/attachments/20111110/516e4491/attachment.htm 