[P2P-F] OSE Europe - Open Process
Michel Bauwens
michel at p2pfoundation.net
Thu Nov 10 12:39:11 CET 2011
ok, waiting 4 neal's ok,
Micel
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop>wrote:
> Nope :-( We are trying to organize a coop of translators in our group (as
> we could be an excellent first customer) but by the moment I have
> everything in Spanish...
>
>
>
> On 10/11/11 03:51, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>> have you explained this vision in an english text?
>>
>> I would also suggest Neal and I interview you on this topic 4 a
>> shareable interview bk we are doing,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM, David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop
>> <mailto:david at lasindias.coop>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> my take is that lasindias would be happy with a phyle-based
>> capitalism,
>> while my endeavour is more clearly post-capitalist, but I may be
>> wrong,
>>
>>
>> Not really, we are happy in a free market system but free market is
>> not capitalism. Capitalism is about the power and access to capital.
>> Phyle mutualism is about market, of course, but is not capitalism as
>> capital is a common, invisible, good there. No power on capital when
>> you have free access to capital.
>>
>> The «source oriented» economy is about demerchantilization, meaning
>> a comunist model for all society: no money, no merchandise... no
>> interchange, just donation. Something as information is in the
>> blogsphere. It needs some kind of abundance in phisical goods
>> similar to informational abundance provided by distributed networks
>> in Internet.
>>
>> Probably productivity allows our generation to build a communist
>> society in information and a free market mutualist (but also
>> competitive) society in the goods markets... but no more.
>>
>>
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>> http://grupolasindias.coop
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