[P2P-F] OSE Europe - Open Process

Michel Bauwens michel at p2pfoundation.net
Thu Nov 10 12:39:11 CET 2011


ok, waiting 4 neal's ok,

Micel

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop>wrote:

> Nope :-( We are trying to organize a coop of translators in our group (as
> we could be an excellent first customer) but by the moment I have
> everything in Spanish...
>
>
>
> On 10/11/11 03:51, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>> have you explained this vision in an english text?
>>
>> I would also suggest Neal and I interview you on this topic 4 a
>> shareable interview bk we are doing,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM, David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop
>> <mailto:david at lasindias.coop>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>        my take is that lasindias would be happy with a phyle-based
>>        capitalism,
>>        while my endeavour is more clearly post-capitalist, but I may be
>>        wrong,
>>
>>
>>    Not really, we are happy in a free market system but free market is
>>    not capitalism. Capitalism is about the power and access to capital.
>>    Phyle mutualism is about market, of course, but is not capitalism as
>>    capital is a common, invisible, good there. No power on capital when
>>    you have free access to capital.
>>
>>    The «source oriented» economy is about demerchantilization, meaning
>>    a comunist model for all society: no money, no merchandise... no
>>    interchange, just donation. Something as information is in the
>>    blogsphere. It needs some kind of abundance in phisical goods
>>    similar to informational abundance provided by distributed networks
>>    in Internet.
>>
>>    Probably productivity allows our generation to build a communist
>>    society in information and a free market mutualist (but also
>>    competitive) society in the goods markets... but no more.
>>
>>
>>    --
>>    David de Ugarte
>>    Grupo Cooperativo de las Indias
>>    http://grupolasindias.coop
>>
>>
>>
>>
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