[P2P-F] Fidonet in community wireless projects?

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 19 07:44:14 CET 2011


thanks to all, I forwarded to Lorraine,

Michel

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Gordon Cook <cook at cookreport.com> wrote:

> in some way similar?  Only in the store and forward sense of making the
> next hop.  Randy bush was backbacking around south america in the 1980s
> doing uucp and then fido, dave hughes did fido with big sky telegraph, i
> carried a 9600 baud modem to moscow for one of the first russian fidos.
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> wireless mesh is MUCH faster BUT although i'd like to see it happen i doubt
> that it will ever be globally routable. sascha, do you agree or not?  If
> anyone thinks it can be globally routable please tell me how.
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> On Mar 18, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Sepp Hasslberger wrote:
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> "FidoNet is a point-to-point and store-and-forward email WAN which uses modems
> on the direct-dial telephone network. It was developed in 1984, and has
> over 20,000 public nodes worldwide.
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> "FidoNet has been owned and operated primarily by end-users and hobbyists
> more than by computer professionals. Therefore, social and political issues
> arose in FidoNet far faster and more seriously than might be expected by
> those raised in other network cultures."
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> ( this was written in 1992 and is quoted from
> http://www.fidonet.org/inet92_Randy_Bush.txt )
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> It would seem that there are at least some parallels, and that FidoNet,
> although technologically quite different from what we have today, was in
> some way a predecessor to the local mesh networks that are being established
> here and there.
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> Sepp
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> On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
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> On 03/18/2011 03:58 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote:
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> Why don't we ask an expert... Sascha, any comments.
>
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> It's on the decline, but still alive (fidonet.org I think).  The
> decentralization is similar to some of the community LAN and wireless
> technologies, but I wouldn't say Fidonet was a precursor (technologically
> speaking).  Its hayday was 1980s/90s, but the Web pretty much crushed it
> over time.
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> --Sascha
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> Best,
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> M
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>    -----Original Message-----
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>    *From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
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>    *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:49 PM
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>    *To:* Michael Gurstein
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>    *Cc:* p2p-foundation; Sepp Hasslberger; armin at easynet.co.uk
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>    *Subject:* Fidonet in community wireless projects?
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>    Interesting question, does anyone have the answer?
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>    I'll relay to FAcebook,
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>    Michel
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>    Hi Michel,
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>    Lorraine Lee commented on your link.
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>    Lorraine wrote: "Whatever happened to Fidonet? Is the dna of fidonet
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>    in some of there community wireless projects we keep hearing about?"
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