[P2P-F] Fidonet in community wireless projects?

[Gordon Cook]

in some way similar?  Only in the store and forward sense of making the next hop.  Randy bush was backbacking around south america in the 1980s doing uucp and then fido, dave hughes did fido with big sky telegraph, i carried a 9600 baud modem to moscow for one of the first russian fidos.

wireless mesh is MUCH faster BUT although i'd like to see it happen i doubt that it will ever be globally routable. sascha, do you agree or not?  If anyone thinks it can be globally routable please tell me how.

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On Mar 18, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Sepp Hasslberger wrote:

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> "FidoNet is a point-to-point and store-and-forward email WAN which uses modems on the direct-dial telephone network. It was developed in 1984, and has over 20,000 public nodes worldwide.
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> "FidoNet has been owned and operated primarily by end-users and hobbyists more than by computer professionals. Therefore, social and political issues arose in FidoNet far faster and more seriously than might be expected by those raised in other network cultures."
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> ( this was written in 1992 and is quoted from http://www.fidonet.org/inet92_Randy_Bush.txt )
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> It would seem that there are at least some parallels, and that FidoNet, although technologically quite different from what we have today, was in some way a predecessor to the local mesh networks that are being established here and there.
> 
> Sepp
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> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> 
>> On 03/18/2011 03:58 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote:
>>> Why don't we ask an expert... Sascha, any comments.
>> 
>> It's on the decline, but still alive (fidonet.org I think).  The
>> decentralization is similar to some of the community LAN and wireless
>> technologies, but I wouldn't say Fidonet was a precursor (technologically
>> speaking).  Its hayday was 1980s/90s, but the Web pretty much crushed it over time.
>> 
>> --Sascha
>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> M
>>> 
>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>    *From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
>>>    *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:49 PM
>>>    *To:* Michael Gurstein
>>>    *Cc:* p2p-foundation; Sepp Hasslberger; armin at easynet.co.uk
>>>    *Subject:* Fidonet in community wireless projects?
>>> 
>>>    Interesting question, does anyone have the answer?
>>> 
>>>    I'll relay to FAcebook,
>>> 
>>>    Michel
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>>>    Date: Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:41 AM
>>>    Subject: Lorraine Lee commented on your link.
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>>>    Lorraine wrote: "Whatever happened to Fidonet? Is the dna of fidonet alive
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