[P2P-F] UROs are on the air
Amaia Arcos
amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
Mon Jun 13 15:39:55 CEST 2011
Yes, we do need to chat at some point and catch up on stuff as we are both
so into these protests! My skype user is guretxa, I am usually always online
even if "invisible". Hoping to catch up on the Ning side of things soon,
sorry I've not had a chance yet.. Also, are we friends on Facebook? I share
there quite a bit too.. I can found as Gure Guretxa. I think I've already
got you on Twitter..
I also think momentum is only going to accelerate from now on.. Let's
coordinate soon :)
Amaia
On 13 June 2011 15:26, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
> Hey Amaia, I was guessing that you two might be in touch already, that is
> great to hear that you are so! the FB page looks very good indeed, well
> done! we might talk sometimes too my skype name is orsan1234
>
> This week there are signs of another slowingdown in the global economy, and
> OPEC is having problems and suudiarabia is acting independently there are
> signs of acceleration in the momoentum!
>
> greetings
>
>
>
> Quoting Amaia Arcos <amaia.arcos at googlemail.com>:
>
> Hi Orsan,
>>
>> We've also been talking to Mayo today and are going to be posting on p2p
>> blog (today, soon) about 19th June and the Euro Pact and how there is talk
>> of making it global so it's great we are all thinking the same!
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166343293429569 - have a look, it
>> has
>> info in English
>>
>> Amaia
>>
>> On 13 June 2011 14:32, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>
>> hi all,
>>>
>>> I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a
>>> webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in
>>> case
>>> the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire
>>> at
>>> the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p
>>> community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our
>>> World
>>> is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal
>>> camaign.
>>>
>>> I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would
>>> give our message a global out reach.
>>>
>>> greetings,
>>> Orsan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> thank you George!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou
>>>> <georgepapani at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
>>>>
>>>>> http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> ???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you George,
>>>>>
>>>>> if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for
>>>>> forwarding!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou <
>>>>> georgepapani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and
>>>>> IMF
>>>>>
>>>>>> for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people
>>>>>> gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? orsan at tie-netherlands.nl ??????:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> poeple and create a ripple effect!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> great Orsan!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would be great!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-for-a-global
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> individuals ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her
>>>>>>>>>> storify's,
>>>>>>>>>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already
>>>>>>>>>> retweeted
>>>>>>>>>> amaia's story ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used
>>>>>>>>>> storify
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> track of developments in your own area,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level',
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a
>>>>>>>>>> weekly
>>>>>>>>>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the
>>>>>>>>>> word?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos <
>>>>>>>>>> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
>>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on
>>>>>>>>>> 11.11.11
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a
>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not,
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> globally link up and try.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many
>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> organise
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea
>>>>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>>>>> Many
>>>>>>>>>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> try).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like
>>>>>>>>>>> thunder
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> stike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> process headed to!
>>>>>>>>>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Egypt,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> harmonised
>>>>>>>>>>>> city
>>>>>>>>>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally?
>>>>>>>>>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an
>>>>>>>>>>>> critical
>>>>>>>>>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an
>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to link up!
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar
>>>>>>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>>>>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, chris at cataspanglish.com <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from my mobile device
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pain"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pointwoman, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dictatorship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schooled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen <<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catalunya
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> celebration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> campers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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