[P2P-F] help:)

Mon Jan 17 05:59:05 CET 2011

thanks for the further details,

Sam, would you know how tarpipe differs from yahoo pipes?

Michel

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> A cursory overview of both:
>
> 1. Tarpipe costs money for any kind of serious use. Although, the
> price is reasonable per resources that will likely be used. I didn't
> sign up for free account version, because it didn't seem worth it to
> me. So, I have no real evaluation of it.
>
> 2. ifttt.org is not yet launched and requires an invitation. (I requested
> one)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thank you Robin,
> >
> > James and colleagues, I'm really interested in going one notch higher in
> > terms of our digital curation,
> >
> > please also check tarpipe and ifft, and tell me what you think,
> >
> > robin, what did you find best?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Robin Good <
> Robin.Good at masternewmedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, tarpipe is very interesting.
> >> You can check a similar service also called http://ifttt.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Michel Bauwens <
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> thanks dante,
> >>>
> >>> Dear Robin,
> >>>
> >>> I recommended Hajnalka to pose her question to Quora, but I can't find
> >>> the invite button,
> >>>
> >>> and this is for personal reply: have you tried tarpipe? seems ideal for
> >>> the kind of work we are doing at the p2p foundation, have you tried it?
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
> >>> <dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Absolutely Fantastic Michel !
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you sharing your overview - for your guidance.
> >>>> I hope I can join Hajnalka in a mutually emulating process.
> >>>> I will recommend her to use a wiki - or the p2pf wiki.
> >>>> best
> >>>> dante
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Michel Bauwens
> >>>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Hajnalka,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are really many strands in this, and I advice you to join
> Quora,
> >>>>> a q and a community that answers questions like this,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - have a look at http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Intelligence, for
> >>>>> the collective intelligence approach, with people like Georrge Por,
> Noubel,
> >>>>> etc ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - the cosmopolitanism approach with people like (Edith) Kaldor (see
> >>>>> http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Cosmopolitanism)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - the integral approach, i.e.. takes on the evolution of
> consciousness,
> >>>>> like Ken Wilber's Integral Psychology, with all the mappings of
> authors on
> >>>>> the evolution of consciousness
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - the 'new left' approaches, both the Negri/Hardt Empire vs
> Multitudes,
> >>>>> and the neo-Tardean approaches such as Maurizio Lazzarato
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - the global commons approaches with James Quilligan and others
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - recentering global society towards civil society and global action
> >>>>> networks (marvin brown and others)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - my own approach towards global open design communities and phyles
> >>>>> (david de ugarte)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's those I'm familiar with ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I personally would use the metagovernance framing of bob jessop,
> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Metagovernance, to organize all these
> strands
> >>>>> together, and/or some form of WIlber AQAL quadrants
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My own material on Global Governance will be included in
> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Governance and
> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tell us more on what you already have, and on your own approach, and
> >>>>> put a wiki for your research, (you can use the p2p-f wiki for that,
> that
> >>>>> would motivate me to help you more, as it would benefit the whole
> community)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michel
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From the policy page:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Key concepts [2] for a Global Common Wealth:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Introduction by James Quilligan: Beyond State Capitalism: The Commons
> >>>>> Economy in our Lifetimes. [3]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establishing Global Common Goods and a Commons Reserve Currency
> >>>>> The Co-Governance and Co-Production of the Commons through Commons
> >>>>> Trusts on the basis of Social Charters
> >>>>> Replacing the scarcity-engineering of neoliberal markets by the
> >>>>> abundance engineering of the commons, see the Abundance - Typology
> and the
> >>>>> Wealth Typology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Global Commons and Participatory International Systems
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Global Commons and Common Sense. Jorge Buzaglo. real-world economics
> >>>>> review, issue no. 51 [12] : policy proposals for a global governance
> of
> >>>>> planetary commons
> >>>>> Four Principles and Corollaries of Network Society and the New
> >>>>> International Governance. By by Alexander Schellong, Philipp Mueller.
> [13]
> >>>>> Hilary Cottam on Participatory Global Governance Systems: Winter 2010
> >>>>> (Vol.XXXI. No 4) edition of the Harvard International Review. [14]
> >>>>> Philipp Mueller on Planetary Public Policy‎ and Open Statecraft
> >>>>> Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks
> >>>>> Developing the Meta Services for the Eco-Social Economy: on
> developing
> >>>>> a framework for an eco-social economy - includings its arrangements
> to
> >>>>> manage natural commons. Text proposed by Feasta, Ireland. By Brian
> Davey
> >>>>> with the assistance of John Jopling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [edit] Alex Evans
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Shooting the Rapids: "argues that the key challenge is to join up the
> >>>>> dots between the institutions, processes and actors that we have now.
> Part
> >>>>> of this task involves expanding the scope of multilateralism to
> engage much
> >>>>> more intensively with non-state actors"
> >>>>> Multilateralism for an Age of Scarcity: paper uses the shared
> operating
> >>>>> system / shared awareness / shared platforms framework (follow-up of
> >>>>> Shooting the Rapids)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [edit] James Greyson
> >>>>>
> >>>>> See: Seven Policy Switches for strategic change on a planetary level
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [edit] James Quilligan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Toward a Commons-based Framework for Global Negotiations
> >>>>> People Sharing Resources. Toward a New Multilateralism of the Global
> >>>>> Commons. James Bernard Quilligan Kosmos Journal, Fall | Winter 2009:
> this
> >>>>> article frames what a global commons-based policy and governance
> structure
> >>>>> should be.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [edit] Towards Open Civil Societies
> >>>>>
> >>>>> See the work of Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
> >>>>> <dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Hajnalka, ( cc: Michel, Charles, Trey )
> >>>>>> I add Trey, Charles and Michel ( and also check out the
> >>>>>> p2pfoundation.net wiki )
> >>>>>> as I know that each of them reads a lot and has a overview on
> >>>>>> available books which can be related to
> >>>>>> the topic of research for your thesis :
> >>>>>> quoting you
> >>>>>> Thesis on " The emergence of global consciousness and its impact on
> >>>>>> the system of
> >>>>>> global governance. "
> >>>>>> " plus I got also some really good tips from other people I
> >>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was sure
> >>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from a
> >>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs. "
> >>>>>> Personally, I read very few books.
> >>>>>> I have no money to buy books, and up until a few months ago, I was
> >>>>>> homeless.
> >>>>>> I do not accumulate any papers - all I need can be contained in one
> >>>>>> bag, even now that I have my own flat.
> >>>>>> I might start reading books again when I will access certain
> >>>>>> specialized private libraries here in Brussels. ( I'm thinking about
> >>>>>> http://fo.am , or the http://financite.be library )
> >>>>>> I do remember I was attending some courses in the field of
> >>>>>> cybernetics, by prof. Heylighen.
> >>>>>> http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/heyl.html
> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Heylighen
> >>>>>> At that time ( 10 years ago ), I was interested in
> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocybernetics
> >>>>>> Although I guess you already have such kind of academic connections
> >>>>>> and influences.
> >>>>>> I also add Charles in cc, as I know he reads a lot too, and might
> know
> >>>>>> some books that interest you.  Charles also likes to keep contact
> with
> >>>>>> schools of design thinking, and I went with him to a design school
> in
> >>>>>> Potsdam
> >>>>>> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/d_school/home.html?L=1
> >>>>>> If you want to come to Brussels to do research for your thesis, I
> >>>>>> could also recommend you to take contact with http://fo.am , more
> >>>>>> particularly Maja and Nik : "Maja Kuzmanovic" <maja at fo.am>, <
> nik at fo.am>,
> >>>>>> Foam is a cultural research and rather avant gardist thinking place.
> >>>>>>  In case Maja and Nik would be interested, I imagine there is the
> potential
> >>>>>> for you to do a residency there, as there is - a really nice -
> living space
> >>>>>> within the research center.
> >>>>>> Perhaps you can even find a grant for it ( or just do it without
> grant
> >>>>>> ), so you have the time to read all the books in their library (
> interesting
> >>>>>> books ! )
> >>>>>> If you want to do a residency in Berlin or Potsdam ( at the school
> of
> >>>>>> design thinking ? )
> >>>>>> I also have the feeling it could be a possibility.
> >>>>>> Personally, I plan to keep a base in Brussels, and develop another
> >>>>>> base in Berlin and/or Leipzig, and live between the two.
> >>>>>> Hugs
> >>>>>> Dante
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Hajnalka Szarvas
> >>>>>> <hajnalkaszarvas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear Dante,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> how are you? I hope everything is fine over there. Are you in
> >>>>>>> Brussels? This time I am writing to you, since perhaps I have
> already
> >>>>>>> mentioned I am writing my thesis, again:) But a new one, I mean for
> a
> >>>>>>> different Master program. And its , the new one's title is The
> >>>>>>> emergence of global consciousness and its impact on the system of
> >>>>>>> global governance. Could you please give me some advice what would
> be
> >>>>>>> interesting to read for that? I have of course an advisor a really
> >>>>>>> good one, plus I got also some really good tipps from other people
> I
> >>>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was
> sure
> >>>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from
> a
> >>>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So thanks in advance if you have any idea.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> by the way how is your projects are going? I wish you many success
> in
> >>>>>>> these, and I also wish you to find your way and home in the side of
> >>>>>>> someone who really loves you, since you deserve it, and it would be
> >>>>>>> good to know for me, that you are happy with someone, who takes
> care
> >>>>>>> on you:)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Take care:)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Have a wonderful day, tomorrow:)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hajnalka:)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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