[P2P-F] help:)

Mon Jan 17 14:21:21 CET 2011

tarpipe seems to hook into specific services. Cost money to get
services that are of any use from what i can see

Yahoo pipes: has a set of modules that both hook into certain
services, plus allow fetching rss, csv, etc, and combining them in
different ways. It is free so far as I know

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Michel Bauwens
<michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks for the further details,
>
> Sam, would you know how tarpipe differs from yahoo pipes?
>
> Michel
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A cursory overview of both:
>>
>> 1. Tarpipe costs money for any kind of serious use. Although, the
>> price is reasonable per resources that will likely be used. I didn't
>> sign up for free account version, because it didn't seem worth it to
>> me. So, I have no real evaluation of it.
>>
>> 2. ifttt.org is not yet launched and requires an invitation. (I requested
>> one)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thank you Robin,
>> >
>> > James and colleagues, I'm really interested in going one notch higher in
>> > terms of our digital curation,
>> >
>> > please also check tarpipe and ifft, and tell me what you think,
>> >
>> > robin, what did you find best?
>> >
>> > Michel
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Robin Good
>> > <Robin.Good at masternewmedia.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, tarpipe is very interesting.
>> >> You can check a similar service also called http://ifttt.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Robin
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Michel Bauwens
>> >> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks dante,
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear Robin,
>> >>>
>> >>> I recommended Hajnalka to pose her question to Quora, but I can't find
>> >>> the invite button,
>> >>>
>> >>> and this is for personal reply: have you tried tarpipe? seems ideal
>> >>> for
>> >>> the kind of work we are doing at the p2p foundation, have you tried
>> >>> it?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
>> >>> <dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Absolutely Fantastic Michel !
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank you sharing your overview - for your guidance.
>> >>>> I hope I can join Hajnalka in a mutually emulating process.
>> >>>> I will recommend her to use a wiki - or the p2pf wiki.
>> >>>> best
>> >>>> dante
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> >>>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dear Hajnalka,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There are really many strands in this, and I advice you to join
>> >>>>> Quora,
>> >>>>> a q and a community that answers questions like this,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - have a look at http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Intelligence, for
>> >>>>> the collective intelligence approach, with people like Georrge Por,
>> >>>>> Noubel,
>> >>>>> etc ...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - the cosmopolitanism approach with people like (Edith) Kaldor (see
>> >>>>> http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Cosmopolitanism)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - the integral approach, i.e.. takes on the evolution of
>> >>>>> consciousness,
>> >>>>> like Ken Wilber's Integral Psychology, with all the mappings of
>> >>>>> authors on
>> >>>>> the evolution of consciousness
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - the 'new left' approaches, both the Negri/Hardt Empire vs
>> >>>>> Multitudes,
>> >>>>> and the neo-Tardean approaches such as Maurizio Lazzarato
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - the global commons approaches with James Quilligan and others
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - recentering global society towards civil society and global action
>> >>>>> networks (marvin brown and others)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - my own approach towards global open design communities and phyles
>> >>>>> (david de ugarte)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's those I'm familiar with ...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I personally would use the metagovernance framing of bob jessop,
>> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Metagovernance, to organize all these
>> >>>>> strands
>> >>>>> together, and/or some form of WIlber AQAL quadrants
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My own material on Global Governance will be included in
>> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Governance and
>> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tell us more on what you already have, and on your own approach, and
>> >>>>> put a wiki for your research, (you can use the p2p-f wiki for that,
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> would motivate me to help you more, as it would benefit the whole
>> >>>>> community)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Michel
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> From the policy page:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Key concepts [2] for a Global Common Wealth:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Introduction by James Quilligan: Beyond State Capitalism: The
>> >>>>> Commons
>> >>>>> Economy in our Lifetimes. [3]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Establishing Global Common Goods and a Commons Reserve Currency
>> >>>>> The Co-Governance and Co-Production of the Commons through Commons
>> >>>>> Trusts on the basis of Social Charters
>> >>>>> Replacing the scarcity-engineering of neoliberal markets by the
>> >>>>> abundance engineering of the commons, see the Abundance - Typology
>> >>>>> and the
>> >>>>> Wealth Typology
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Global Commons and Participatory International Systems
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Global Commons and Common Sense. Jorge Buzaglo. real-world economics
>> >>>>> review, issue no. 51 [12] : policy proposals for a global governance
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> planetary commons
>> >>>>> Four Principles and Corollaries of Network Society and the New
>> >>>>> International Governance. By by Alexander Schellong, Philipp
>> >>>>> Mueller. [13]
>> >>>>> Hilary Cottam on Participatory Global Governance Systems: Winter
>> >>>>> 2010
>> >>>>> (Vol.XXXI. No 4) edition of the Harvard International Review. [14]
>> >>>>> Philipp Mueller on Planetary Public Policy‎ and Open Statecraft
>> >>>>> Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks
>> >>>>> Developing the Meta Services for the Eco-Social Economy: on
>> >>>>> developing
>> >>>>> a framework for an eco-social economy - includings its arrangements
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> manage natural commons. Text proposed by Feasta, Ireland. By Brian
>> >>>>> Davey
>> >>>>> with the assistance of John Jopling.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [edit] Alex Evans
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Shooting the Rapids: "argues that the key challenge is to join up
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> dots between the institutions, processes and actors that we have
>> >>>>> now. Part
>> >>>>> of this task involves expanding the scope of multilateralism to
>> >>>>> engage much
>> >>>>> more intensively with non-state actors"
>> >>>>> Multilateralism for an Age of Scarcity: paper uses the shared
>> >>>>> operating
>> >>>>> system / shared awareness / shared platforms framework (follow-up of
>> >>>>> Shooting the Rapids)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [edit] James Greyson
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> See: Seven Policy Switches for strategic change on a planetary level
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [edit] James Quilligan
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Toward a Commons-based Framework for Global Negotiations
>> >>>>> People Sharing Resources. Toward a New Multilateralism of the Global
>> >>>>> Commons. James Bernard Quilligan Kosmos Journal, Fall | Winter 2009:
>> >>>>> this
>> >>>>> article frames what a global commons-based policy and governance
>> >>>>> structure
>> >>>>> should be.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [edit] Towards Open Civil Societies
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> See the work of Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
>> >>>>> <dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Dear Hajnalka, ( cc: Michel, Charles, Trey )
>> >>>>>> I add Trey, Charles and Michel ( and also check out the
>> >>>>>> p2pfoundation.net wiki )
>> >>>>>> as I know that each of them reads a lot and has a overview on
>> >>>>>> available books which can be related to
>> >>>>>> the topic of research for your thesis :
>> >>>>>> quoting you
>> >>>>>> Thesis on " The emergence of global consciousness and its impact on
>> >>>>>> the system of
>> >>>>>> global governance. "
>> >>>>>> " plus I got also some really good tips from other people I
>> >>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was
>> >>>>>> sure
>> >>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from
>> >>>>>> a
>> >>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs. "
>> >>>>>> Personally, I read very few books.
>> >>>>>> I have no money to buy books, and up until a few months ago, I was
>> >>>>>> homeless.
>> >>>>>> I do not accumulate any papers - all I need can be contained in one
>> >>>>>> bag, even now that I have my own flat.
>> >>>>>> I might start reading books again when I will access certain
>> >>>>>> specialized private libraries here in Brussels. ( I'm thinking
>> >>>>>> about
>> >>>>>> http://fo.am , or the http://financite.be library )
>> >>>>>> I do remember I was attending some courses in the field of
>> >>>>>> cybernetics, by prof. Heylighen.
>> >>>>>> http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/heyl.html
>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Heylighen
>> >>>>>> At that time ( 10 years ago ), I was interested in
>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocybernetics
>> >>>>>> Although I guess you already have such kind of academic connections
>> >>>>>> and influences.
>> >>>>>> I also add Charles in cc, as I know he reads a lot too, and might
>> >>>>>> know
>> >>>>>> some books that interest you.  Charles also likes to keep contact
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> schools of design thinking, and I went with him to a design school
>> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>> Potsdam
>> >>>>>> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/d_school/home.html?L=1
>> >>>>>> If you want to come to Brussels to do research for your thesis, I
>> >>>>>> could also recommend you to take contact with http://fo.am , more
>> >>>>>> particularly Maja and Nik : "Maja Kuzmanovic" <maja at fo.am>,
>> >>>>>> <nik at fo.am>,
>> >>>>>> Foam is a cultural research and rather avant gardist thinking
>> >>>>>> place.
>> >>>>>>  In case Maja and Nik would be interested, I imagine there is the
>> >>>>>> potential
>> >>>>>> for you to do a residency there, as there is - a really nice -
>> >>>>>> living space
>> >>>>>> within the research center.
>> >>>>>> Perhaps you can even find a grant for it ( or just do it without
>> >>>>>> grant
>> >>>>>> ), so you have the time to read all the books in their library (
>> >>>>>> interesting
>> >>>>>> books ! )
>> >>>>>> If you want to do a residency in Berlin or Potsdam ( at the school
>> >>>>>> of
>> >>>>>> design thinking ? )
>> >>>>>> I also have the feeling it could be a possibility.
>> >>>>>> Personally, I plan to keep a base in Brussels, and develop another
>> >>>>>> base in Berlin and/or Leipzig, and live between the two.
>> >>>>>> Hugs
>> >>>>>> Dante
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Hajnalka Szarvas
>> >>>>>> <hajnalkaszarvas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Dear Dante,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> how are you? I hope everything is fine over there. Are you in
>> >>>>>>> Brussels? This time I am writing to you, since perhaps I have
>> >>>>>>> already
>> >>>>>>> mentioned I am writing my thesis, again:) But a new one, I mean
>> >>>>>>> for a
>> >>>>>>> different Master program. And its , the new one's title is The
>> >>>>>>> emergence of global consciousness and its impact on the system of
>> >>>>>>> global governance. Could you please give me some advice what would
>> >>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>> interesting to read for that? I have of course an advisor a really
>> >>>>>>> good one, plus I got also some really good tipps from other people
>> >>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was
>> >>>>>>> sure
>> >>>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from
>> >>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> So thanks in advance if you have any idea.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> by the way how is your projects are going? I wish you many success
>> >>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>> these, and I also wish you to find your way and home in the side
>> >>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> someone who really loves you, since you deserve it, and it would
>> >>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>> good to know for me, that you are happy with someone, who takes
>> >>>>>>> care
>> >>>>>>> on you:)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Take care:)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Have a wonderful day, tomorrow:)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hajnalka:)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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