thanks for the further details,<br><br>Sam, would you know how tarpipe differs from yahoo pipes?<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Samuel Rose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">A cursory overview of both:<br>
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1. Tarpipe costs money for any kind of serious use. Although, the<br>
price is reasonable per resources that will likely be used. I didn't<br>
sign up for free account version, because it didn't seem worth it to<br>
me. So, I have no real evaluation of it.<br>
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2. <a href="http://ifttt.org" target="_blank">ifttt.org</a> is not yet launched and requires an invitation. (I requested one)<br>
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thank you Robin,<br>
><br>
> James and colleagues, I'm really interested in going one notch higher in<br>
> terms of our digital curation,<br>
><br>
> please also check tarpipe and ifft, and tell me what you think,<br>
><br>
> robin, what did you find best?<br>
><br>
> Michel<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Robin Good <<a href="mailto:Robin.Good@masternewmedia.org">Robin.Good@masternewmedia.org</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Yes, tarpipe is very interesting.<br>
>> You can check a similar service also called <a href="http://ifttt.com/" target="_blank">http://ifttt.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Many thanks,<br>
>> Robin<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> thanks dante,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dear Robin,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I recommended Hajnalka to pose her question to Quora, but I can't find<br>
>>> the invite button,<br>
>>><br>
>>> and this is for personal reply: have you tried tarpipe? seems ideal for<br>
>>> the kind of work we are doing at the p2p foundation, have you tried it?<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:dante.monson@gmail.com">dante.monson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Absolutely Fantastic Michel !<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thank you sharing your overview - for your guidance.<br>
>>>> I hope I can join Hajnalka in a mutually emulating process.<br>
>>>> I will recommend her to use a wiki - or the p2pf wiki.<br>
>>>> best<br>
>>>> dante<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Michel Bauwens<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Dear Hajnalka,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> There are really many strands in this, and I advice you to join Quora,<br>
>>>>> a q and a community that answers questions like this,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - have a look at <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Intelligence" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Intelligence</a>, for<br>
>>>>> the collective intelligence approach, with people like Georrge Por, Noubel,<br>
>>>>> etc ...<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - the cosmopolitanism approach with people like (Edith) Kaldor (see<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Cosmopolitanism" target="_blank">http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Cosmopolitanism</a>)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - the integral approach, i.e.. takes on the evolution of consciousness,<br>
>>>>> like Ken Wilber's Integral Psychology, with all the mappings of authors on<br>
>>>>> the evolution of consciousness<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - the 'new left' approaches, both the Negri/Hardt Empire vs Multitudes,<br>
>>>>> and the neo-Tardean approaches such as Maurizio Lazzarato<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - the global commons approaches with James Quilligan and others<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - recentering global society towards civil society and global action<br>
>>>>> networks (marvin brown and others)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - my own approach towards global open design communities and phyles<br>
>>>>> (david de ugarte)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> That's those I'm familiar with ...<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I personally would use the metagovernance framing of bob jessop,<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Metagovernance" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Metagovernance</a>, to organize all these strands<br>
>>>>> together, and/or some form of WIlber AQAL quadrants<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> My own material on Global Governance will be included in<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Governance" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Governance</a> and<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Policy</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Tell us more on what you already have, and on your own approach, and<br>
>>>>> put a wiki for your research, (you can use the p2p-f wiki for that, that<br>
>>>>> would motivate me to help you more, as it would benefit the whole community)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Michel<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> From the policy page:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Key concepts [2] for a Global Common Wealth:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Introduction by James Quilligan: Beyond State Capitalism: The Commons<br>
>>>>> Economy in our Lifetimes. [3]<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Establishing Global Common Goods and a Commons Reserve Currency<br>
>>>>> The Co-Governance and Co-Production of the Commons through Commons<br>
>>>>> Trusts on the basis of Social Charters<br>
>>>>> Replacing the scarcity-engineering of neoliberal markets by the<br>
>>>>> abundance engineering of the commons, see the Abundance - Typology and the<br>
>>>>> Wealth Typology<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Global Commons and Participatory International Systems<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Global Commons and Common Sense. Jorge Buzaglo. real-world economics<br>
>>>>> review, issue no. 51 [12] : policy proposals for a global governance of<br>
>>>>> planetary commons<br>
>>>>> Four Principles and Corollaries of Network Society and the New<br>
>>>>> International Governance. By by Alexander Schellong, Philipp Mueller. [13]<br>
>>>>> Hilary Cottam on Participatory Global Governance Systems: Winter 2010<br>
>>>>> (Vol.XXXI. No 4) edition of the Harvard International Review. [14]<br>
>>>>> Philipp Mueller on Planetary Public Policy and Open Statecraft<br>
>>>>> Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks<br>
>>>>> Developing the Meta Services for the Eco-Social Economy: on developing<br>
>>>>> a framework for an eco-social economy - includings its arrangements to<br>
>>>>> manage natural commons. Text proposed by Feasta, Ireland. By Brian Davey<br>
>>>>> with the assistance of John Jopling.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [edit] Alex Evans<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Shooting the Rapids: "argues that the key challenge is to join up the<br>
>>>>> dots between the institutions, processes and actors that we have now. Part<br>
>>>>> of this task involves expanding the scope of multilateralism to engage much<br>
>>>>> more intensively with non-state actors"<br>
>>>>> Multilateralism for an Age of Scarcity: paper uses the shared operating<br>
>>>>> system / shared awareness / shared platforms framework (follow-up of<br>
>>>>> Shooting the Rapids)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [edit] James Greyson<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> See: Seven Policy Switches for strategic change on a planetary level<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [edit] James Quilligan<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Toward a Commons-based Framework for Global Negotiations<br>
>>>>> People Sharing Resources. Toward a New Multilateralism of the Global<br>
>>>>> Commons. James Bernard Quilligan Kosmos Journal, Fall | Winter 2009: this<br>
>>>>> article frames what a global commons-based policy and governance structure<br>
>>>>> should be.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [edit] Towards Open Civil Societies<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> See the work of Steve Waddell on Global Action Networks<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:dante.monson@gmail.com">dante.monson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Dear Hajnalka, ( cc: Michel, Charles, Trey )<br>
>>>>>> I add Trey, Charles and Michel ( and also check out the<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">p2pfoundation.net</a> wiki )<br>
>>>>>> as I know that each of them reads a lot and has a overview on<br>
>>>>>> available books which can be related to<br>
>>>>>> the topic of research for your thesis :<br>
>>>>>> quoting you<br>
>>>>>> Thesis on " The emergence of global consciousness and its impact on<br>
>>>>>> the system of<br>
>>>>>> global governance. "<br>
>>>>>> " plus I got also some really good tips from other people I<br>
>>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was sure<br>
>>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from a<br>
>>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs. "<br>
>>>>>> Personally, I read very few books.<br>
>>>>>> I have no money to buy books, and up until a few months ago, I was<br>
>>>>>> homeless.<br>
>>>>>> I do not accumulate any papers - all I need can be contained in one<br>
>>>>>> bag, even now that I have my own flat.<br>
>>>>>> I might start reading books again when I will access certain<br>
>>>>>> specialized private libraries here in Brussels. ( I'm thinking about<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://fo.am" target="_blank">http://fo.am</a> , or the <a href="http://financite.be" target="_blank">http://financite.be</a> library )<br>
>>>>>> I do remember I was attending some courses in the field of<br>
>>>>>> cybernetics, by prof. Heylighen.<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/heyl.html" target="_blank">http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/heyl.html</a><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Heylighen" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Heylighen</a><br>
>>>>>> At that time ( 10 years ago ), I was interested in<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocybernetics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocybernetics</a><br>
>>>>>> Although I guess you already have such kind of academic connections<br>
>>>>>> and influences.<br>
>>>>>> I also add Charles in cc, as I know he reads a lot too, and might know<br>
>>>>>> some books that interest you. Charles also likes to keep contact with<br>
>>>>>> schools of design thinking, and I went with him to a design school in<br>
>>>>>> Potsdam<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/d_school/home.html?L=1" target="_blank">http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/d_school/home.html?L=1</a><br>
>>>>>> If you want to come to Brussels to do research for your thesis, I<br>
>>>>>> could also recommend you to take contact with <a href="http://fo.am" target="_blank">http://fo.am</a> , more<br>
>>>>>> particularly Maja and Nik : "Maja Kuzmanovic" <<a href="mailto:maja@fo.am">maja@fo.am</a>>, <<a href="mailto:nik@fo.am">nik@fo.am</a>>,<br>
>>>>>> Foam is a cultural research and rather avant gardist thinking place.<br>
>>>>>> In case Maja and Nik would be interested, I imagine there is the potential<br>
>>>>>> for you to do a residency there, as there is - a really nice - living space<br>
>>>>>> within the research center.<br>
>>>>>> Perhaps you can even find a grant for it ( or just do it without grant<br>
>>>>>> ), so you have the time to read all the books in their library ( interesting<br>
>>>>>> books ! )<br>
>>>>>> If you want to do a residency in Berlin or Potsdam ( at the school of<br>
>>>>>> design thinking ? )<br>
>>>>>> I also have the feeling it could be a possibility.<br>
>>>>>> Personally, I plan to keep a base in Brussels, and develop another<br>
>>>>>> base in Berlin and/or Leipzig, and live between the two.<br>
>>>>>> Hugs<br>
>>>>>> Dante<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Hajnalka Szarvas<br>
>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:hajnalkaszarvas@gmail.com">hajnalkaszarvas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Dear Dante,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> how are you? I hope everything is fine over there. Are you in<br>
>>>>>>> Brussels? This time I am writing to you, since perhaps I have already<br>
>>>>>>> mentioned I am writing my thesis, again:) But a new one, I mean for a<br>
>>>>>>> different Master program. And its , the new one's title is The<br>
>>>>>>> emergence of global consciousness and its impact on the system of<br>
>>>>>>> global governance. Could you please give me some advice what would be<br>
>>>>>>> interesting to read for that? I have of course an advisor a really<br>
>>>>>>> good one, plus I got also some really good tipps from other people I<br>
>>>>>>> respect very much, and I thought I may ask you too, since I was sure<br>
>>>>>>> you can suggest really good readings in the topic and perhaps from a<br>
>>>>>>> bit different angle than academic Profs.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> So thanks in advance if you have any idea.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> by the way how is your projects are going? I wish you many success in<br>
>>>>>>> these, and I also wish you to find your way and home in the side of<br>
>>>>>>> someone who really loves you, since you deserve it, and it would be<br>
>>>>>>> good to know for me, that you are happy with someone, who takes care<br>
>>>>>>> on you:)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Take care:)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Have a wonderful day, tomorrow:)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hajnalka:)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> -<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Connect: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com</a>; Discuss:<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org" target="_blank">http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Updates: <a href="http://del.icio.us/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://del.icio.us/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens</a>;<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Think tank:<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI" target="_blank">http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Connect: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com</a>; Discuss:<br>
>>> <a href="http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org" target="_blank">http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org</a><br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
>>> Think tank: <a href="http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI" target="_blank">http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI</a><br>
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