[P2P-F] Fwd: Patent Received

Sat Jan 15 14:20:57 CET 2011

Thanks Michel for quick response,

And I understand. Forgive my frustration. All I can say is I'm trying to put
together something useful and maybe even essential. And to do that it has to
have a pragmatic foundation. And YES! I need to make a living.

I also believe this enterprise should be a profitable construct... but in
this case the profits GO TO THE COMMONS!
I'd like to move the Commons from being a beggar-at-the-table... to being an
equal participant with a voice that can't be ignored.

I also believe this can serve as a basis for much of the peer-to-peer
functionality that a corporate dominated Facebook has taken... a place where
the whole focus isn't about merchandising more crap and mind-distractions
(don't get me wrong... fun has a place too) and that this network could form
the core for what can become a sort of civic-focussed Facebook for its
users.

And the independence of this network itself can then become a guardian for
the freedom of the web.

So forgive me, but it often seems the Corporatist side sees this as a
threat...  the Right sees this as "Commie-Pinko"... the Left sees this as a
scam... and the Intellectual sees me as a rube without credentials.

It's made things very lonely and difficult out here.

Regards,

Tom Crowl
http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> thanks for that heartfelt reaction,
>
> but you cannot expect everybody to be aware of the full background and
> context of your project, nor of the personal circumstances,
>
> There must be an easier way to respond to critique than to expect people to
> have read your blog, or even tried the demo; a lot of reactions will come
> before people even consider going further into a topic, as
> frustating/infuriating as this sometimes may be,
>
> Michel
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Tom Crowl <culturalengineer at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for feedback Mr. Bauwens,
>>
>> Help is certainly welcome!
>>
>> The public service capabilities of television were lost (in the U.S. at
>> least) because the public airwaves were not protected from encroachment and
>> the eventual complete domination of that landscape by private interests.
>>
>> I am seeking to protect a critical corner of the Internet landscape. This
>> is specifically designated as an enterprise to be COMMMONS-OWNED! (I'll be
>> happy expand on how I think that ownership should be designed but nothing is
>> set in stone). This is very clearly stated in everything I'm doing. Read the
>> damn blog!
>>
>> Speech, association, charity, etc are ALL peer-to-peer transactions that
>> PRECEDE the commercial transaction in human evolution.
>>
>> I believe the MICRO-transaction is a CRITICAL component for scaling
>> opinion influence and other capabilities within the Commons in a scaled
>> society...
>>
>> These transactions are NOT currently practicable under the current
>> fucked-up banking paradigm. (Try giving 25 cents to a charity or within a
>> networked lobbying effort with PayPal, Visa or Mastercard... )
>>
>> If you wish to understand the mechanism try the demo... its been up for 3
>> years. http://www.Chagora.com
>> Read the FAQ for more info. Have you done that? Where have you guys been
>> for the last 3 years? I could have used some help? Maybe could have gotten
>> to the point wouldn't have even needed to bother with the patent... WHERE
>> WERE YOU ALL?
>>
>> The establishment of a network (or networks) of such accounts allows for
>> that network to offer far more capabilities than simply the
>> micro-transaction for politics or charity...
>>
>> I'm not a businessman and have dedicated my life to trying to improve
>> things for others... even going back to not only refusing induction back in
>> the Viet Nam era... but even refusing the damn 2S deferment because I
>> thought it laid the groundwork for a more class-divided society (which it
>> did).
>>
>> I'm penniless and pursued this solo because I thought it was right to do
>> and there was nobody to help.
>>
>> This is a patent meant to benefit and protect the Commons. I'll be happy
>> to answer any questions if you don't understand the concept, theory or
>> mechanism.
>>
>> I'd hope to eventually receive something since I've lost everything in
>> this pursuit. I'd love to be able to go to conferences and tried to go to as
>> many as I could but I can't even get across town now... I'm penniless.
>>
>> This is a PRAGMATIC IMPLEMENTATION...
>>
>> It's about trying to actually getting something DONE! Maybe it's because I
>> once played  Ben Franklin in a production of 1776 that I'm really into
>> pragmatism... and not much into endless theoretical discussions.
>>
>> I'm literally starving out here... completely solo... lost everything and
>> all you can come up with is to throw bricks?
>>
>> P.S. For how this might relate to privacy and online identity see this
>> piece by Nancy Scola (founders of Personal Democracy Forum and Sunlight
>> Foundation have joined my LinkedIn network) at TechPresident and my
>> comment...
>>
>> What's to Actually Like About "Obama's Online ID"? CDT's Aaron
>> Brauer-Rieke Explains...<http://techpresident.com/blog-entry/whats-actually-about-obamas-online-id-cdts-aaron-brauer-rieke-explains>
>>
>> P.P.S. Essentially I'm attempting to protect and then give something very,
>> very valuable over to the Commons. Maybe you would have preferred this
>> patent to have gone to Mark Zuckerberg, Goldman Sacks and the Russian Mafia?
>>
>> Frankly you should be grateful for the efforts I've made. How hungry must
>> I become? I'm disappointed by your knee-jerk reactions. Eventually  I
>> believe it will be seen that this is an important development.
>>
>> Thanks for your careful consideration,
>>
>> Tom Crowl
>> http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> yes, it seems quite contradictory that something billed as commons, is
>>> patented ...
>>>
>>> perhaps Tom can explain his reasoning ...
>>>
>>> I personally still don't understand what a commons account is,
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whoa.
>>>>
>>>> I am wholeheartedly against patenting anything like this, in principle.
>>>>
>>>> There is so much already released open source prior art on so much of
>>>> what is described in this, that I will truly be surprised of the
>>>> patent is granted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Michel Bauwens
>>>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > From: Tom Crowl <culturalengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> > Date: Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: Patent Received
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > PATENT GRANTED!
>>>> > ... the key to unlocking the potentials of the Commons-dedicated
>>>> Account
>>>> > Network and the re-vitalization of both representative government and
>>>> a
>>>> > fragmented and dis-empowered Commons.
>>>> > THANKS to you Carrie and thank Michael as well!
>>>> > Tom Crowl
>>>> > http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Carrie Dottellis
>>>> > <CarrieDottellis at aplegal.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Congratulations Mr. Crowl,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We received your patent at our office yesterday afternoon.  I have
>>>> >> attached a copy of the first page.  It is #7,870,067 and the date is
>>>> January
>>>> >> 11, 2011 (1/11/11 that is easy to remember).
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I will send your patent to you via certified mail at the beginning of
>>>> next
>>>> >> week, along with information regarding maintenance of the patent.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have a wonderful weekend.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Carrie Dottellis
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
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