[P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...

Sun Feb 20 04:49:34 CET 2011

hi dennis,

this link came in via google alert,

Michel

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <himself at orcmid.com>wrote:

> It is willful with respect to foundation.com but not p2p.foundation.com.
>  If you use any *.foundation.com you will get the same result.
>
> It's a wide net.  How did you happen to fall into it?
>
>  I suspect that foundation.com is a relatively valuable property and it is
> being squatted on for the purpose of making a good sale of the lease at some
> point.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 17:57
> To: P2P Foundation mailing list
> Cc: Samuel Rose; dennis.hamilton at acm.org
> Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...
>
> yes, some form of spamlinking to obtain visits and present ads I guess ....
> as there is actually no content ...
>
> but the attempt is clearly willfull ..
>
> Michel
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>        p2p foundation doesn't own foundation.net so it is actually not a
>        hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that
>        looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain
>
>
>        On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
>        <dennis.hamilton at acm.org> wrote:
>        > Subdomains are not issued by domain registries.  However, a site
> tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone.  I have a web site that allows
> me unlimited subdomains.  These can also be used as anchors for
> implementation of add-on domains.  E.g., my domain for <
> http://nfoWorks.org> is targeted at my actual web site as <
> http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com> and that maps onto <
> http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/>.  I don't publicize the subdomains
> because I don't want people to bookmark them:  if I move or re-organize the
> site, such bookmarks would no longer work.
>        >
>        > The address has not been hijacked.  The address
> p2p.foundation.net is a different address.  If p2pfoundation.net had been
> routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking.
>        >
>        > What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of
> foundation.net simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home
> page.  There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally
> designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs.
>        >
>        > Michel, did you see a scraped version of the <
> http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance> page or did you see a
> version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content  from <
> http://foundation.net> with possibly-different formatting?
>        >
>        >  - Dennis
>        >
>        > -----Original Message-----
>        > From: p2p-foundation-bounces at lists.ourproject.org [mailto:
> p2p-foundation-bounces at lists.ourproject.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose
>        > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24
>        > To: P2P Foundation mailing list
>        > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...
>        >
>        > Does P2PF own the subdomain p2p.foundation.net ?
>        >
>        > [ ... ]
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