hi dennis,<br><br>this link came in via google alert,<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:himself@orcmid.com">himself@orcmid.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">It is willful with respect to <a href="http://foundation.com" target="_blank">foundation.com</a> but not <a href="http://p2p.foundation.com" target="_blank">p2p.foundation.com</a>.  If you use any *.<a href="http://foundation.com" target="_blank">foundation.com</a> you will get the same result.<br>

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It&#39;s a wide net.  How did you happen to fall into it?<br>
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 I suspect that <a href="http://foundation.com" target="_blank">foundation.com</a> is a relatively valuable property and it is being squatted on for the purpose of making a good sale of the lease at some point.<br>
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 - Dennis<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Michel Bauwens [mailto:<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 17:57<br>
To: P2P Foundation mailing list<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Cc: Samuel Rose; <a href="mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org">dennis.hamilton@acm.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...<br>
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yes, some form of spamlinking to obtain visits and present ads I guess .... as there is actually no content ...<br>
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but the attempt is clearly willfull ..<br>
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Michel<br>
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On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Samuel Rose &lt;<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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        p2p foundation doesn&#39;t own <a href="http://foundation.net" target="_blank">foundation.net</a> so it is actually not a<br>
        hijack, but a kind of spoofing where they are using a domain that<br>
        looks close to, but is not exactly your actual domain<br>
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        On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton<br>
        &lt;<a href="mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org">dennis.hamilton@acm.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        &gt; Subdomains are not issued by domain registries.  However, a site tenant might sublet a subdomain to someone.  I have a web site that allows me unlimited subdomains.  These can also be used as anchors for implementation of add-on domains.  E.g., my domain for &lt;<a href="http://nfoWorks.org" target="_blank">http://nfoWorks.org</a>&gt; is targeted at my actual web site as &lt;<a href="http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com" target="_blank">http://nfoworks.nfocentrale.com</a>&gt; and that maps onto &lt;<a href="http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/" target="_blank">http://nfocentrale.com/nfoworks/</a>&gt;.  I don&#39;t publicize the subdomains because I don&#39;t want people to bookmark them:  if I move or re-organize the site, such bookmarks would no longer work.<br>

        &gt;<br>
        &gt; The address has not been hijacked.  The address <a href="http://p2p.foundation.net" target="_blank">p2p.foundation.net</a> is a different address.  If <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">p2pfoundation.net</a> had been routed to an unauthorized place, that would be hijacking.<br>

        &gt;<br>
        &gt; What it looks like in the current instance is that the holder of <a href="http://foundation.net" target="_blank">foundation.net</a> simply routes unimplemented subdomains to a generic home page.  There are sites like this all over the Internet, some intentionally designed to make fruit from mistyped URLs.<br>

        &gt;<br>
        &gt; Michel, did you see a scraped version of the &lt;<a href="http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance" target="_blank">http://p2pFoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance</a>&gt; page or did you see a version of the page that now appears, the one with the same content  from &lt;<a href="http://foundation.net" target="_blank">http://foundation.net</a>&gt; with possibly-different formatting?<br>

        &gt;<br>
        &gt;  - Dennis<br>
        &gt;<br>
        &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
        &gt; From: <a href="mailto:p2p-foundation-bounces@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-foundation-bounces@lists.ourproject.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:p2p-foundation-bounces@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-foundation-bounces@lists.ourproject.org</a>] On Behalf Of Samuel Rose<br>

        &gt; Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 07:24<br>
        &gt; To: P2P Foundation mailing list<br>
        &gt; Subject: Re: [P2P-F] please note hijacking of our address ...<br>
        &gt;<br>
        &gt; Does P2PF own the subdomain <a href="http://p2p.foundation.net" target="_blank">p2p.foundation.net</a> ?<br>
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