[P2P-F] skdb-related luddite project

[Michel Bauwens]

Dear Iuval,

sorry for the delay,

I understand that marcin is not easily approachable, but the choice of the
technologies was actually the result of a process, eli could tell you more

I can't really help you technically, but hopefully, vinay, chris, and
bryan, all p2p makers, can help you with advice,

however, I can't forward attachments to the p2p-f and open-man lists, so
please resend to the people I copied here,

Michel

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Iuval Clejan <clejan.iuval at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, I am interested in starting a project that might benefit from existing
> skdb infrastructure. What I would like to create is a blueprint for a
> minimalist technology for basic needs (food, shelter, water, healthcare,
> clothes), that has the constraint that everything produced is truly local
> (for various areas, both urban and rural), mostly artisanal (land and
> craft-based rather than factory-based), low initial investment after first
> prototype, as low labor as possible (hopefully an improvement on the middle
> ages) and replicable. This eliminates alot of modern technology, including
> anything computer-related and factory-produced (unless it is found in a
> junkyard). I am obviously not opposed to using computers as a means to
> achieve this end. I am looking for collaborators that would identify all
> the dependencies of energy, information and materials. This project is
> similar to the Biodome project, except that instead of a minimalist
> ecology, I am looking to create a minimalist technology. It might also be
> similar to the Manhattan project, in that I want to bring together experts
> in sustainable agriculture, blacksmithing, carpentry, glass making, fiber
> technology, history of technology, rocket stoves, water catchment and
> distribution, and then spend some time designing, finding missing links and
> inventing ways to fill them. I have engaged in several of these
> specialties, but I am not an expert in any,.
>
> The most similar existing project I am aware of is Marcin Jakubowski's
> Global Village Construction Set. I have tried to talk to him but he is not
> amenable to discussion with me. I am concerned about the explicit
> dependence on computers, and the seeming ad hoc nature of his 50
> machines--how did he settle on those? I would like to see a diagram
> emerging from a design process that shows clearly all the dependencies with
> all the arrows converging on the 5 basic needs above, making it easier to
> see missing links and to trim down to a minimal set (although some
> redundancy could be engineered).
>
> Can you help me in some way? I am of course sympathetic to the goals of
> the P2P foundation, so please let me know if I can help you (CV enclosed).
> I am also enclosing a proposal that I submitted to the Open Society
> Institute, which was rejected, if you want more details. The proposal was
> outlining a fellowship project and thus did not include detailed budget
> information.
> Thanks,
> Iuval
>



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