<div>Dear Iuval, </div>
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<div>sorry for the delay,</div>
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<div>I understand that marcin is not easily approachable, but the choice of the technologies was actually the result of a process, eli could tell you more</div>
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<div>I can't really help you technically, but hopefully, vinay, chris, and bryan, all p2p makers, can help you with advice,</div>
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<div>however, I can't forward attachments to the p2p-f and open-man lists, so please resend to the people I copied here,</div>
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<div>Michel<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Iuval Clejan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clejan.iuval@gmail.com">clejan.iuval@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi, I am interested in starting a project that might benefit from existing skdb infrastructure. What I would like to create is a blueprint for a minimalist technology for basic needs (food, shelter, water, healthcare, clothes), that has the constraint that everything produced is truly local (for various areas, both urban and rural), mostly artisanal (land and craft-based rather than factory-based), low initial investment after first prototype, as low labor as possible (hopefully an improvement on the middle ages) and replicable. This eliminates alot of modern technology, including anything computer-related and factory-produced (unless it is found in a junkyard). I am obviously not opposed to using computers as a means to achieve this end. I am looking for collaborators that would identify all the dependencies of energy, information and materials. This project is similar to the Biodome project, except that instead of a minimalist ecology, I am looking to create a minimalist technology. It might also be similar to the Manhattan project, in that I want to bring together experts in sustainable agriculture, blacksmithing, carpentry, glass making, fiber technology, history of technology, rocket stoves, water catchment and distribution, and then spend some time designing, finding missing links and inventing ways to fill them. I have engaged in several of these specialties, but I am not an expert in any,.</div>
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<div>The most similar existing project I am aware of is Marcin Jakubowski's Global Village Construction Set. I have tried to talk to him but he is not amenable to discussion with me. I am concerned about the explicit dependence on computers, and the seeming ad hoc nature of his 50 machines--how did he settle on those? I would like to see a diagram emerging from a design process that shows clearly all the dependencies with all the arrows converging on the 5 basic needs above, making it easier to see missing links and to trim down to a minimal set (although some redundancy could be engineered).</div>
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<div>Can you help me in some way? I am of course sympathetic to the goals of the P2P foundation, so please let me know if I can help you (CV enclosed). I am also enclosing a proposal that I submitted to the Open Society Institute, which was rejected, if you want more details. The proposal was outlining a fellowship project and thus did not include detailed budget information.</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
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