[P2P-F] The Modern Anglo-Dutch Empire

[Michel Bauwens]

thanks sam, for the details,

by the way, actually I checked and Soros, a Jew himself, tells the story in
his own biography, but it was quite normal that Jews would be mobilized by
the Germans in their own repression ... it's on the wikipedia article, you
can check,

of course, the fact that it is larouchian doesn't mean it is necessarilty
'all wrong', but given their past behaviour, I think the utmost caution is
advisable,

I must admit that without that context, that book would have seemed
fascinating for me as well,

Michel

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:38 AM, james burke <lifesized at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi michel & sam,
>
> thanks for the heads up.
> that is one totally fucking weird story altogether.
> I did find the book's title rather interesting:
> http://www.oaklandasp.comcastbiz.net/
> but now I wander how much it is actually factual
>  and how much over slanted towards LaRouche ideology.
>
> /J
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>wrote:
>
>> confirmed, this is even a official larouchian pamphlet ..
>>
>> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaRouche_movement for the basic info,
>>
>> I encountered them in early 80s when they would still physically attack
>> progressive gatherings ..
>>
>> more opinionated than the wikipedia, is this cultsite,
>> http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1001&Itemid=14.., it writes ..
>>
>> "LaRouche is one of those political trippers that has managed to take the
>> bend all the way around from the Far Left to the Far Right, without breaking
>> his neck. "
>>
>> a bit on their views:
>>
>> LaRouche's main thesis is that the 'Anglo-American cabal,' which involves
>> George Bush, the English monarchy, and some other ingredients, has decided
>> to undertake a programme of genocidal IMF/World Bank-financed
>> de-industrialization to deplete the population of the Third World. The
>> cabal's plan includes "narcotrafficking"; environmental policies to prevent
>> those countries from developing economically; 'Malthusian' population
>> policies which incorporate birth control, abortion, and allowing disease and
>> hunger free rein; profiteering through 'neo-colonial' resource control; the
>> "lab-created" AIDs virus; and promotion of 'antifamily' ideals such as
>> feminism, homosexuality, Satanism, and "the sex-drugs-rock and roll
>> counterculture." This conspiracy theory, needless to say, is a grab bag of
>> far right and far left nut worries. LaRouche believes that only massive
>> industrial projects - nuclear power, huge irrigation canals dug with atomic
>> bombs (!) in the Middle East, and similar high-tech developments - can free
>> the Third World from the sinister grasp of the oligarchs' cabal.
>> LaRouche has other windmills to tilt his lance at. For one thing, he wants
>> to move toward a "Hamiltonian" economic model, which is neither
>> laissez-faire nor communist. (Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson argued
>> over the future economic shape of America. Jefferson saw a land of small,
>> dispersed planters, farmers, and "Virginia gentlemen." Hamilton thought
>> America would develop through a strong Central Bank which financed
>> industrial development and fostered growth of urban centres, not rural
>> farmers. Hamilton was right on one score - "Jeffersonian" democracy meant
>> slavery for another 100 years.) In his "Science of Christian Economy,"
>> LaRouche blames a lot of modern problems on *usury*, the lending of money
>> at excessive interest. LaRouche also blames much of our 'cultural' breakdown
>> on a move away from classicism in the arts - particularly the well-honed
>> musical scale, Schiller's great poetry, and Renaissance naturalism in
>> painting. Ever the Neo-Platonist, LaRouche lambasts the "Aristotelian"
>> thinking which he sees behind our legal and other institutions. LaRouche's
>> plan to 'reclassicize' our lives includes a whole new way of envisioning
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> Date: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: The Modern Anglo-Dutch Empire
>> To: james burke <james at p2pfoundation.net>
>> Cc: p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>, David de Ugarte
>> <david at lasindias.coop>, George Papanikolaou <georgepapani at gmail.com>,
>> David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt at mac.com>
>>
>>
>> this seems like an original book, judging from the preface alone,
>>
>> I wonder if anyone is familiar with this history of the struggle against
>> 'empire' ?
>>
>> One caveat though, it has a reference to LaRouche in the preface, and it
>> you know anything about this extreme righ-wing cult, this should let the
>> alarm bells ringing,
>>
>> I'm not at all familiar with the charge that Soros was responsible for
>> stripping the jews in budapest of their possessions, that just doesn't ring
>> true to me?
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:15 PM, james burke <james at p2pfoundation.net>wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.oaklandasp.comcastbiz.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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