[P2P-F] michigan developments

Fri Apr 29 17:22:40 CEST 2011

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Michel Bauwens
<michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think then the first thing would be to identify individuals on a local
> level, and proceed from there
>
> do you know the digital justice coalition in detroit?
>

Yes, this is good advice for sure. Getting the people who have been
active in Michigan around these issues to coordinate and collaborate
is definitely worthwhile. They are largely fractured.

No offense is meant by this, but digital justice is only one aspect of
the political advocacy that we're pursuing here. Especially now that
the state government is actually taking over whole towns, bringing
corporate cronies, etc. There are coalitions building now where
"digital justice" folks could easily have a place at the table though.

We already have a lot of progress in doing the same coalition building
around Food systems here in Michigan and in the region.

> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > hi Kevin,
>> >
>> > I completely agree with your approach, which seems congruent with mine,
>> >
>> > Michel
>> >
>>
>> Yes, on board with this too. In fact, I am also interested in working
>> with unions, and even local branches of parties like the Democrats
>> where there is support for commons/p2p approaches.
>>
>>
>> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Kevin Carson
>> > <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michel Bauwens
>> >> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Dear Sam,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm personally not suggesting that p2p people should create a
>> >> > political
>> >> > party, BUT, I do think that we should have bridges to the
>> >> > institutional
>> >> > world, and that includes a network of sympathetic politicians,
>> >>
>> >> > so it's not about creating a p2p political party, but of meshworking
>> >> > political and non-political people around shared concerns wherever
>> >> > they
>> >> > can
>> >> > be active
>> >>
>> >> I think what you suggest is the optimal form of political
>> >> participation.  The first emphasis should be on building
>> >> counterinstitutions at the local level and taking advantage of the
>> >> potential offered by liberatory technologies to create spaces outside
>> >> of state/corporate control, as Sam writes here:
>> >>
>> >> Instead, I am really focused on
>> >> >> providing plausible alternatives to food, energy, education,
>> >> >> technology and culture systems in our cities and communities, where
>> >> >> people can co-govern the resources, an collaborate with others in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> region who are doing the same.
>> >>
>> >> To the extent that we're involved in politics, it should be by
>> >> developing informal friendly ties and networking with particular
>> >> individuals inside the party establishments, or by participating in ad
>> >> hoc issue-oriented pressure campaigns in coalition with groups like
>> >> EFF.
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