[P2P-F] michigan developments

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 29 17:01:55 CEST 2011


I think then the first thing would be to identify individuals on a local
level, and proceed from there

do you know the digital justice coalition in detroit?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hi Kevin,
> >
> > I completely agree with your approach, which seems congruent with mine,
> >
> > Michel
> >
>
> Yes, on board with this too. In fact, I am also interested in working
> with unions, and even local branches of parties like the Democrats
> where there is support for commons/p2p approaches.
>
>
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Kevin Carson
> > <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michel Bauwens <
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dear Sam,
> >> >
> >> > I'm personally not suggesting that p2p people should create a
> political
> >> > party, BUT, I do think that we should have bridges to the
> institutional
> >> > world, and that includes a network of sympathetic politicians,
> >>
> >> > so it's not about creating a p2p political party, but of meshworking
> >> > political and non-political people around shared concerns wherever
> they
> >> > can
> >> > be active
> >>
> >> I think what you suggest is the optimal form of political
> >> participation.  The first emphasis should be on building
> >> counterinstitutions at the local level and taking advantage of the
> >> potential offered by liberatory technologies to create spaces outside
> >> of state/corporate control, as Sam writes here:
> >>
> >> Instead, I am really focused on
> >> >> providing plausible alternatives to food, energy, education,
> >> >> technology and culture systems in our cities and communities, where
> >> >> people can co-govern the resources, an collaborate with others in the
> >> >> region who are doing the same.
> >>
> >> To the extent that we're involved in politics, it should be by
> >> developing informal friendly ties and networking with particular
> >> individuals inside the party establishments, or by participating in ad
> >> hoc issue-oriented pressure campaigns in coalition with groups like
> >> EFF.
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Organization Theory:  A Libertarian Perspective
> >>
> http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html
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