I think then the first thing would be to identify individuals on a local level, and proceed from there<br><br>do you know the digital justice coalition in detroit?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Samuel Rose <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Michel Bauwens &lt;<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; hi Kevin,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I completely agree with your approach, which seems congruent with mine,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Michel<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>Yes, on board with this too. In fact, I am also interested in working<br>
with unions, and even local branches of parties like the Democrats<br>
where there is support for commons/p2p approaches.<br>
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&gt; On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Kevin Carson<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:free.market.anticapitalist@gmail.com">free.market.anticapitalist@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michel Bauwens &lt;<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Dear Sam,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m personally not suggesting that p2p people should create a political<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; party, BUT, I do think that we should have bridges to the institutional<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; world, and that includes a network of sympathetic politicians,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; so it&#39;s not about creating a p2p political party, but of meshworking<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; political and non-political people around shared concerns wherever they<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; can<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; be active<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I think what you suggest is the optimal form of political<br>
&gt;&gt; participation. �The first emphasis should be on building<br>
&gt;&gt; counterinstitutions at the local level and taking advantage of the<br>
&gt;&gt; potential offered by liberatory technologies to create spaces outside<br>
&gt;&gt; of state/corporate control, as Sam writes here:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Instead, I am really focused on<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; providing plausible alternatives to food, energy, education,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; technology and culture systems in our cities and communities, where<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; people can co-govern the resources, an collaborate with others in the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; region who are doing the same.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; To the extent that we&#39;re involved in politics, it should be by<br>
&gt;&gt; developing informal friendly ties and networking with particular<br>
&gt;&gt; individuals inside the party establishments, or by participating in ad<br>
&gt;&gt; hoc issue-oriented pressure campaigns in coalition with groups like<br>
&gt;&gt; EFF.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Kevin Carson<br>
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