I think then the first thing would be to identify individuals on a local level, and proceed from there<br><br>do you know the digital justice coalition in detroit?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Samuel Rose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> hi Kevin,<br>
><br>
> I completely agree with your approach, which seems congruent with mine,<br>
><br>
> Michel<br>
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</div>Yes, on board with this too. In fact, I am also interested in working<br>
with unions, and even local branches of parties like the Democrats<br>
where there is support for commons/p2p approaches.<br>
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> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Kevin Carson<br>
> <<a href="mailto:free.market.anticapitalist@gmail.com">free.market.anticapitalist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Dear Sam,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I'm personally not suggesting that p2p people should create a political<br>
>> > party, BUT, I do think that we should have bridges to the institutional<br>
>> > world, and that includes a network of sympathetic politicians,<br>
>><br>
>> > so it's not about creating a p2p political party, but of meshworking<br>
>> > political and non-political people around shared concerns wherever they<br>
>> > can<br>
>> > be active<br>
>><br>
>> I think what you suggest is the optimal form of political<br>
>> participation. �The first emphasis should be on building<br>
>> counterinstitutions at the local level and taking advantage of the<br>
>> potential offered by liberatory technologies to create spaces outside<br>
>> of state/corporate control, as Sam writes here:<br>
>><br>
>> Instead, I am really focused on<br>
>> >> providing plausible alternatives to food, energy, education,<br>
>> >> technology and culture systems in our cities and communities, where<br>
>> >> people can co-govern the resources, an collaborate with others in the<br>
>> >> region who are doing the same.<br>
>><br>
>> To the extent that we're involved in politics, it should be by<br>
>> developing informal friendly ties and networking with particular<br>
>> individuals inside the party establishments, or by participating in ad<br>
>> hoc issue-oriented pressure campaigns in coalition with groups like<br>
>> EFF.<br>
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