[Centre] Work in the bid

Michel Bauwens michel at p2pfoundation.net
Tue Aug 9 11:51:49 CEST 2011

Dear Franco and friends,

Franco, thanks for relaunching the process and discussion, which I have just
been catching up on.

Apologies for my own radio silence, which may last another 2-3 days, I have
had a serious flu, and though I'm feeling better, internet is still
exhausting right now. I should be okay at the end of the week,


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Cubitt S.R. <S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> >
> >Two messages in this morning from colleagues at Southampton's research
> >office (neither are academics - most of whome are on holiday or trying to
> >write their books ;(
> I will have a go at drafting a short idea for what we could aim for, and
> putting together our circulation with the circulation list for the
> university discussion
> I'm recently returned to the UK after 11 years overseas so the number of
> contacts and knowledge of institutions is weak. On the other hand, a bid
> with a strong EU presence - even though the CFP is specifically about the
> UK ­ could be a strength for us.
> We do NOT know that the presence of Hargreaves is vital. (Unfortunately I
> do have a connection with Cardiff but it will not be helpful - long story:
> my predecessor at Melbourne)
> More later
> sean
> Thanks Nikki and sorry wasn¹t about to make the meeting.
> Dear All
> I would have thought this needs to be lead by a senior academic from a
> Business / Law discipline with track record in this area. Clearly there
> should be close links to those in arts, IT etc. Unless we can rapidly find
> a natural and credible lead from within Southampton I would have thought
> our best option is to partner.Please note I did spot in the call document
> that an organisation can only be in one Bid (see pt 5 on eligibility).
> Further we also do need to be able to articulate (albeit briefly for the
> EOI) how this centre would be sustainable into the future ŠŠ
> I am not sure whether our own Law team and in particular Steve Saxby
> have/has expressed an interest &/or identified who would be the stiffest
> competition/best partner but I would hope they would be able to advise.
> From a non-academic perspective (but legal with some interest in this
> field) I wonder whether Queen Mary¹s University of London Œs Centre for
> Commercial Law Studies might be quite a big hitter as they do quite a bit
> in IT and Media lawŠ. ? They certainly fielded a few people to the
> workshop.  http://www.ccls.qmul.ac.uk/Research/it/index.html
> Christopher Millard provides them with a close link to Oxford¹s Internet
> Institute as he is part-time at both.
> Subject to our wanting to lead would it be worth seeing if they were
> putting in for a bid at all and potentially offer to link with them?
> Indeed we could ask them anyway in order to gauge if they are competition.
> Also Bournemouth University Centre for IP & Policy Management -
> http://www.cippm.org.uk/research.htmlcould well be thinking of going for
> it in which ditto in relation to partnering/competing with them?
> Link to Hargreaves report in case you don¹t already have it (you probably
> do as it has been mentioned previously)
> http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ipreview-finalreport.pdf
> but also there are a number of supporting documents which are informative
> http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ipreview/ipreview-documents.htm
> Some other suggestions in case they are of help:
> 1) Would you agree any bid might benefit from some of the following as
> partners/ representatives in steering capacity in addition to the various
> industry sectors identified in the call?
> -British Library
> -Selection of Law Firms leading in this field
> -Collecting societiesy / copyright licensing agencies
> 2) Another refreshing inclusion could be around the education piece
> (strong theme in Hargreaves) potentially building a strand about
> curriculum development during schooling years rather than leaving for
> businesses to tackle it and later stage learning?
> 3) The expectation should certainly be to have UK IPO on any steering
> panel which I believe is implicit from the call. The University also has
> links to the CBI Intellectual Property Committee which includes a number
> of the major players in some of the industry sectors involved. If we were
> to lead it may be possible to link through to them for a steering group
> representative. I can assist in providing that link if there is a decision
> to lead.
> Overall we must be mindful of the selection criteria for the 1st stage:
> ·         fit to the call specification
> € demonstrable expertise in delivering excellent and relevant research
> € strength of vision and leadership
> € the added value of the Centre¹s overall aims, approach and activities
> (i.e. the Centre should be more than the sum of its parts)
> € the strength of any proposed partnerships between partner institutions
> and the infrastructural support offered by all partners, especially the
> host institution
> € the quality and potential of existing and proposed partnerships with
> stakeholders and other, non-academic organisations and the nature of the
> relationship
> € the extent to which proposed activities respond to current priorities
> and potential future challenges
> € potential to deliver impact
> € plans for a sustainable legacy
> € value for money (including the potential to obtain additional income).
> I am not sure if there is a follow up meeting but if one is planned will
> engage should you want.
> Kind Regards
> Diana
> Diana Galpin
> Senior Legal Adviser
> Research & Innovation Services
> Direct Tel: 023 8059 8673
> Mobile: 07979852362
> Fax: 023 8059 8671
> www.southampton.ac.uk/business
> +++++++++++++++++++++
> Dear Diana
> Do we assume that any bid led by Professor Ian Hargreaves, Chair of
> Digital Economy at the Cardiff School of Journalism, Media and Cultural
> Studies/ Cardiff Business School is a very strong contender given that the
> Government has just accepted all ten recommendations made in his
> independent review on intellectual property?  If so, does the group have
> any good connections it can exploit, or a history of collaborating with
> Cardiff in this area? Or is it too late to pursue that avenue?
> Kind regards
> Niki
> Niki Price
> Bid Manager
> Research & Innovation Services
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