[JoPP-Public] JoPP-Public Digest, Vol 107, Issue 1

Mon Jan 29 11:44:34 CET 2024

I would be keen to archive via Zenodo.

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>    1. jopp update 2024 (Mathieu O'Neil)
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> From: Mathieu O'Neil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>
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> Subject: [JoPP-Public] jopp update 2024
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> Hi all
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> The "peerproduction.net" domain name, held by P2PF, was allowed to lapse
> at the end of 2023 [citing a P2PF web person: "I did send an email to a few
> folks regarding old domains and unfortunately it did not reach Mathieu:( As
> part of the foundation moving administratively to Belgium, a lot of old
> domain names have been released as no one claimed them"].
>
> As a result the "peerproduction.net" domain name went into a "redemption
> period" and the journal website went down; thanks to Adrian Smith for
> alerting us about it.
>
> Eventually we managed to track down the relevant P2PF person and Peter
> Troxler (who already hosts the journal website on his server) purchased the
> domain name - thanks Peter! Thanks also to Stephen Collins for his help.
>
> In the process, two issues came to the fore:
>
> 1-we need to find supplementary archiving solutions: I will start another
> thread about this soon.
>
> 2-we need to update the jopp website to make it clear the journal is no
> longer active (this will prevent unwanted submissions which still
> episodically occur).
>
> My suggestion is to insert the following text:
> "[update (February 2024): the journal of peer production is no longer
> active; jopp#15 in 2022 was the final issue]"
> In the following pages
> ABOUT “Submissions”, “Mission Statement”, "People", "Advice", "Twitter"
> PEER REVIEW "Process" ["Current" is obsolete and should be deleted]
>
> @all: if you have any other suggestions please let me know before the end
> of this week. Thanks!
>
> For the front/homepage text, which currently reads:
> “Welcome to the Journal of Peer Production
> The Journal of Peer Production seeks high-quality contributions from
> researchers and practitioners of peer production. We understand peer
> production as a mode of commons-based and oriented production in which
> participation is voluntary and predicated on the self-selection of tasks.
> Notable examples are the collaborative development of Free Software
> projects and of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia.”
>
> We could have instead:
> "The Journal of Peer Production is no longer active
> Between 2011 and 2022 researchers and practitioners self-managed the
> Journal of Peer Production to explore and document peer production,
> understood as a mode of commons-based and oriented production in which
> participation is voluntary and predicated on the self-selection of tasks.
> Notable examples are the collaborative development of Free Software
> projects and of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia. jopp#15 TRANSITION was
> the final issue"
>
> @all: if you have any other suggestions please let me know before the end
> of this week. Thanks!
>
> cheers
> Mathieu
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> From: Mathieu O'Neil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>
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>         (Peter)" <p.troxler at hr.nl>
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> Hi all
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>
> As mentioned in my earlier message Peter, Steve and I were discussing
> web-related issues with P2PF people when the issue of archiving came up.
> Someone mentioned the "web archive" saying it was free, then Peter came up
> with a thoughtful reply, to which I responded:
>
>
> "@Peter: thanks for your response. This topic is too important to be
> debated simply amongst ourselves: it needs to happen on the jopp-public
> list so that other editors see it and so it is archived. So, if OK with
> you, I will copy-paste your message and post an update explaining the
> domain lapsed, the site went down, and now you bought and own the domain
> (happy to share a draft with you before posting)."
>
>
> [Peter agreed, so copy-pasting his message below:]
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> From: Troxler, P. (Peter) <p.troxler at hr.nl<mailto:p.troxler at hr.nl>>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 8:14 AM
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> Subject: peerproduction.net > archiving
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>
> Folks
>
> archiving is not a simple issue, hence a new subject for this conversation.
>
> Of course, peerproduction.net is available through archive.org's
> waybackmachine. However, for academic publishing this is not the way to go.
> Neither is uploading all papers to archive.org as archive.org lacks the
> links to more mainstream academic publishing. At the end of the day, we
> want the papers to be found, read, and cited.
>
> So, as many other OA initiatives, we are looking for a more durable
> repository.
>
> There are two routes that spring to mind (because the third, SSRN, has
> become Elsevier):
> - zenodo.org
> - SocArxiv
>
> Zenodo is pretty straight forward, would allow to bulk upload final
> papers, and it caters for related materials (original, reviews), it
> provides a DOI, and it will live for another 20 years. Based at CERN, we
> can expect this term to be extended.
> SocArxiv is not geared towards bulk archiving (afaik), I have not read
> anything on the site regarding DO; it, allows for related material.
> Further, it has a salvation fund to keep it going if and when funding runs
> out.
>
> However, archiving (rather than keeping peerproduction.net running)
> requires some substantial effort to get it done, for which some funding is
> required.
>
> If we don't want to leave JoPP to an anecdotal glitch in time, I think we
> should make some serious work of getting it archived. It's mainly juggling
> data, as the basis we have is rock solid.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Peter
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