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<p class="elementToProof" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">As mentioned in my earlier message Peter, Steve and I were discussing web-related issues with P2PF
people when the issue of archiving came up. Someone mentioned the "web archive" saying it was free, then Peter came up with a thoughtful reply, to which I responded:</span></p>
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<p class="elementToProof" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">"@Peter: thanks for your response. This topic is too important to be debated simply amongst ourselves:
it needs to happen on the jopp-public list so that other editors see it and so it is archived. So, if OK with you, I will copy-paste your message and post an update explaining the domain lapsed, the site went down, and now you bought and own the domain (happy
to share a draft with you before posting)."</span></p>
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<p class="elementToProof" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">[Peter agreed, so copy-pasting his message below:]</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> Troxler, P. (Peter) <<a href="mailto:p.troxler@hr.nl" id="OWAf4b8875c-c101-7bad-4427-56bc46cd261b" class="OWAAutoLink" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" data-loopstyle="linkonly">p.troxler@hr.nl</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 26, 2024 8:14 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> peerproduction.net > archiving</span></p>
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<div><span style="font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Folks<br>
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archiving is not a simple issue, hence a new subject for this conversation.<br>
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Of course, peerproduction.net is available through archive.org's waybackmachine. However, for academic publishing this is not the way to go. Neither is uploading all papers to archive.org as archive.org lacks the links to more mainstream academic publishing.
At the end of the day, we want the papers to be found, read, and cited.<br>
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So, as many other OA initiatives, we are looking for a more durable repository.<br>
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There are two routes that spring to mind (because the third, SSRN, has become Elsevier):<br>
- zenodo.org<br>
- SocArxiv<br>
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Zenodo is pretty straight forward, would allow to bulk upload final papers, and it caters for related materials (original, reviews), it provides a DOI, and it will live for another 20 years. Based at CERN, we can expect this term to be extended.<br>
SocArxiv is not geared towards bulk archiving (afaik), I have not read anything on the site regarding DO; it, allows for related material. Further, it has a salvation fund to keep it going if and when funding runs out.<br>
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However, archiving (rather than keeping peerproduction.net running) requires some substantial effort to get it done, for which some funding is required.<br>
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If we don't want to leave JoPP to an anecdotal glitch in time, I think we should make some serious work of getting it archived. It's mainly juggling data, as the basis we have is rock solid.<br>
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Opinions?<br>
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Peter<br>
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