[JoPP-Public] New project (was: JoPP at Open Bidouille Camp)

Fri Oct 12 20:02:13 CEST 2012

Hi Clément, Franco, all

On 10/12/12, Clement Quinson  <clement.quinson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi !
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> > OK, well Clément from Electrolab (cc-ed to this message) is interested in
> > working with us on the hacker / peer production spaces documentation
> > project. I will subscribe him to this list if we proceed (see below).
> Sure :) Haven't seen any emails about that yet, tho.
> 

Well, I wanted to evaluate community interest, and so far, apart from us three, its zero - but you can subscribe in any case - I don't know why I always tell people I will subscribe them; I can't actually do it myself..
https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public

> 
> 
> > Clément pointed me to hackerspaces.org which lists hacklabs globally.
> >
> > In the first instance our own project would be a resource documenting best
> > practice, experiences, problems that can be avoided, tips etc by people
> > involved in hacklabs and other peer production spaces. We would need to
> > define a questionnaire and then contact people. If someone has a better idea
> > about how to do this please go ahead, it is still very open at this stage.
> Sounds good.
> 
> > From this emerge a number of questions:
> >
> > @Franco: can we set up a new subdomain like surveys.peerproduction.net?
> 
(copying in Franco's message "Of course. We should also define what tool do we want to use in that domain."

I dont know, what is the best way to present a searchable archive of questionnaires?
Since not many people are interested in driving this a self-entering (once authorised) tool could be envisaged? Perhaps too risky, oversight needed?

> 
> >
> > @all (1): we need to define a title. I suggest spaces.peerproduction.net -
> > less restrictive than "hackerspaces" IMO.
> Yes, there is always a question about hackerspace/makerspace/fablab,
> etc... although these are different kind of spaces, I guess what we
> want to do here is above that distinction. Somehow, trying to figure
> out what are the differences is maybe something the questionnaire
> should try to help with...
> 

Thats a great idea - teasing out how actors construct / envisage their conception of their alternative spaces.

> 
> 
> > @all (2): we need (a) contact person(s) to drive this forward. I am happy to
> > help but would prefer it if the responsibility was shared... so, who would
> > like to get involved?
> Well... I'm not really sure I can help by being lead/drive on this, I
> am already way too busy on other topics.
> 
> My contribution to this would be to help spread the questionnaire, and
> also, before that, help making it relevant, maybe spread it to few
> contacts I have to check what they have to say about the first
> versions we'll come up with.
> 

Sounds good - I guess we can begin drafting a list of questions.

> 

> 
> 
> Something else: some guy did one or two similar studies some time ago.
> It should be referenced somewhere in hackerspaces.org. It was more
> about the demographics of hackerspaces... might be of interest though.
> 
OK, a precise ref. would be useful, if you have it.

cheers

Mathieu 

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> 

> 
> C.
> 
> 
> 
> > cheers
> >
> > Mathieu
> >
> > Le 09/27/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi George
> >
> > Well sure but we have to like it too ;-)
> >
> > I just wrote to him to let him know that we are OK with this idea and to ask
> > him to confirm whether he wants to go ahead - if he says yes we can
> > subscribe him.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Mathieu
> >
> > On 09/27/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > my own preference is for hacklabs.peerproduction.net but i think this
> > decision ultimately lies with the person who'll be responsible for
> > that project. Is he on this mailing list?
> > x,
> > g.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Mathieu ONeil
> > <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> OK, so what should we call this project?
> >>
> >> There already is "surveys.peerproduction.net"
> >>
> >> So: "hacklabs.peerproduction.net"
> >> Or: "makers.peerproduction.net"
> >> Or: "spaces.peerproduction.net"
> >> ?
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> Mathieu
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/26/12, Athina Karatzogianni <athina.k at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There are various hacklabs I am in touch with too and I could ask them if
> >> there are interested in getting involved
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi George, all
> >>>
> >>> Yes, we should have a new menu for "projects" (for ex.) on the homepage.
> >>> In my view having only one would look kind of "under-populated" - if we
> >>> do
> >>> have more (like the one below) it would look better.
> >>>
> >>> cheers
> >>>
> >>> Mathieu
> >>>
> >>> On 09/23/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Mathieu,
> >>>
> >>> I think too it's a good idea to set up another subdomain for that
> >>> hacklab documentation project (assuming, of course, that the person
> >>> you met at the conference agrees to have his project hosted in this
> >>> way). But shouldn't we also add some kind of links to those two
> >>> subdomains/projects from the JoPP homepage?
> >>>
> >>> x,
> >>> g.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi all
> >>> >
> >>> > The event was very well-attended and the conference went fine (though
> >>> > the
> >>> > machines and lights made it a tad hot for some). We met some
> >>> > interesting
> >>> > people including a guy active in a local hacklab who appeared to be
> >>> > well
> >>> > connected to the French hacklab scene and is interested in documenting
> >>> > it
> >>> > somehow. Since we already have the "surveys.peerproduction" subdomain
> >>> > perhaps we could set up another subdomain and have more than one
> >>> > subproject
> >>> > - either that or we could just do a series of questionnaires of
> >>> > hacklabs,
> >>> > but I like the idea of having more than one subdomain...?
> >>> >
> >>> > Any thoughts?
> >>> >
> >>> > cheers
> >>> >
> >>> > Mathieu
> >>> >
> >>> > On 09/22/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi all
> >>> >
> >>> > This afternoon at 3PM Johan and I will be speaking at a conference
> >>> > organised
> >>> > during what is billed as the first-ever French "Maker Faire" in
> >>> > Saint-Ouen.
> >>> > A celebration of hardware hacking and DIY culture.
> >>> > http://openbidouillecamp.tumblr.com/
> >>> >
> >>> > cheers
> >>> >
> >>> > Mathieu
> >>> >
> >>> >
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> > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
> > College of Arts and Social Science
> > The Australian National University
> > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au
> > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php
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Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
College of Arts and Social Science
The Australian National University
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