Hi Clément, Franco, all<div><br /></div><div>On 10/12/12, <b class="name">Clement Quinson </b> <clement.quinson@gmail.com> wrote:<br /><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div class="mimepart text plain">Hi !<br /><br /><br />On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au> wrote:<br />> OK, well Clément from Electrolab (cc-ed to this message) is interested in<br />> working with us on the hacker / peer production spaces documentation<br />> project. I will subscribe him to this list if we proceed (see below).<br />Sure :) Haven't seen any emails about that yet, tho.</div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>Well, I wanted to evaluate community interest, and so far, apart from us three, its zero - but you can subscribe in any case - I don't know why I always tell people I will subscribe them; I can't actually do it myself..</div><div>https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jopp-public</div><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div class="mimepart text plain"><br /><br />> Clément pointed me to hackerspaces.org which lists hacklabs globally.<br />><br />> In the first instance our own project would be a resource documenting best<br />> practice, experiences, problems that can be avoided, tips etc by people<br />> involved in hacklabs and other peer production spaces. We would need to<br />> define a questionnaire and then contact people. If someone has a better idea<br />> about how to do this please go ahead, it is still very open at this stage.<br />Sounds good.<br /><br />> From this emerge a number of questions:<br />><br />> @Franco: can we set up a new subdomain like surveys.peerproduction.net?</div></blockquote><div>(copying in Franco's message "<span style="font-size: 21.33333396911621px; line-height: 26.80000114440918px; ">Of course. We should also define what tool do we want to use in that domain."</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 21.33333396911621px; line-height: 26.80000114440918px; "><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 21.33333396911621px; line-height: 26.80000114440918px; ">I dont know, what is the best way to present a searchable archive of questionnaires?</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 21.33333396911621px; line-height: 26.80000114440918px; ">Since not many people are interested in driving this a self-entering (once authorised) tool could be envisaged? Perhaps too risky, oversight needed?</span></div><div ><br/></div><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div class="mimepart text plain"><br />><br />> @all (1): we need to define a title. I suggest spaces.peerproduction.net -<br />> less restrictive than "hackerspaces" IMO.<br />Yes, there is always a question about hackerspace/makerspace/fablab,<br />etc... although these are different kind of spaces, I guess what we<br />want to do here is above that distinction. Somehow, trying to figure<br />out what are the differences is maybe something the questionnaire<br />should try to help with...</div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>Thats a great idea - teasing out how actors construct / envisage their conception of their alternative spaces.</div><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div class="mimepart text plain"><br /><br />> @all (2): we need (a) contact person(s) to drive this forward. I am happy to<br />> help but would prefer it if the responsibility was shared... so, who would<br />> like to get involved?<br />Well... I'm not really sure I can help by being lead/drive on this, I<br />am already way too busy on other topics.<br /><br />My contribution to this would be to help spread the questionnaire, and<br />also, before that, help making it relevant, maybe spread it to few<br />contacts I have to check what they have to say about the first<br />versions we'll come up with.</div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>Sounds good - I guess we can begin drafting a list of questions.</div><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0px; " type="cite"></blockquote><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div class="mimepart text plain"><br /><br />Something else: some guy did one or two similar studies some time ago.<br />It should be referenced somewhere in hackerspaces.org. It was more<br />about the demographics of hackerspaces... might be of interest though.</div></blockquote><div>OK, a precise ref. would be useful, if you have it.</div><div><br /></div><div>cheers</div><div><br /></div><div>Mathieu </div><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div><br/></div></blockquote><blockquote cite="mid:CAO_vwOd8j=_Wa6FX1xMj2k5t8+=QFJ1tDtvL9-5s7tRJsxGeUg@mail.gmail.com" class="iwcQuote" style="border-left: 1px solid #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type="cite"><div class="mimepart text plain"><br />C.<br /><br /><br /><br />> cheers<br />><br />> Mathieu<br />><br />> Le 09/27/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au> a écrit :<br />><br />> Hi George<br />><br />> Well sure but we have to like it too ;-)<br />><br />> I just wrote to him to let him know that we are OK with this idea and to ask<br />> him to confirm whether he wants to go ahead - if he says yes we can<br />> subscribe him.<br />><br />> cheers<br />><br />> Mathieu<br />><br />> On 09/27/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos@gmail.com> wrote:<br />><br />> my own preference is for hacklabs.peerproduction.net but i think this<br />> decision ultimately lies with the person who'll be responsible for<br />> that project. Is he on this mailing list?<br />> x,<br />> g.<br />><br />><br />><br />> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Mathieu ONeil<br />> <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au> wrote:<br />>> Hi all<br />>><br />>> OK, so what should we call this project?<br />>><br />>> There already is "surveys.peerproduction.net"<br />>><br />>> So: "hacklabs.peerproduction.net"<br />>> Or: "makers.peerproduction.net"<br />>> Or: "spaces.peerproduction.net"<br />>> ?<br />>><br />>> cheers<br />>><br />>> Mathieu<br />>><br />>><br />>> On 09/26/12, Athina Karatzogianni <athina.k@gmail.com> wrote:<br />>><br />>> There are various hacklabs I am in touch with too and I could ask them if<br />>> there are interested in getting involved<br />>><br />>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au><br />>> wrote:<br />>>><br />>>> Hi George, all<br />>>><br />>>> Yes, we should have a new menu for "projects" (for ex.) on the homepage.<br />>>> In my view having only one would look kind of "under-populated" - if we<br />>>> do<br />>>> have more (like the one below) it would look better.<br />>>><br />>>> cheers<br />>>><br />>>> Mathieu<br />>>><br />>>> On 09/23/12, george dafermos <georgedafermos@gmail.com> wrote:<br />>>><br />>>> Hi Mathieu,<br />>>><br />>>> I think too it's a good idea to set up another subdomain for that<br />>>> hacklab documentation project (assuming, of course, that the person<br />>>> you met at the conference agrees to have his project hosted in this<br />>>> way). But shouldn't we also add some kind of links to those two<br />>>> subdomains/projects from the JoPP homepage?<br />>>><br />>>> x,<br />>>> g.<br />>>><br />>>><br />>>><br />>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au><br />>>> wrote:<br />>>> > Hi all<br />>>> ><br />>>> > The event was very well-attended and the conference went fine (though<br />>>> > the<br />>>> > machines and lights made it a tad hot for some). We met some<br />>>> > interesting<br />>>> > people including a guy active in a local hacklab who appeared to be<br />>>> > well<br />>>> > connected to the French hacklab scene and is interested in documenting<br />>>> > it<br />>>> > somehow. Since we already have the "surveys.peerproduction" subdomain<br />>>> > perhaps we could set up another subdomain and have more than one<br />>>> > subproject<br />>>> > - either that or we could just do a series of questionnaires of<br />>>> > hacklabs,<br />>>> > but I like the idea of having more than one subdomain...?<br />>>> ><br />>>> > Any thoughts?<br />>>> ><br />>>> > cheers<br />>>> ><br />>>> > Mathieu<br />>>> ><br />>>> > On 09/22/12, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au> wrote:<br />>>> ><br />>>> > Hi all<br />>>> ><br />>>> > This afternoon at 3PM Johan and I will be speaking at a conference<br />>>> > organised<br />>>> > during what is billed as the first-ever French "Maker Faire" in<br />>>> > Saint-Ouen.<br />>>> > A celebration of hardware hacking and DIY culture.<br />>>> > <a href="http://openbidouillecamp.tumblr.com/" target="l">http://openbidouillecamp.tumblr.com/</a><br />>>> ><br />>>> > cheers<br />>>> ><br />>>> > Mathieu<br />>>> ><br />>>> ><br />>>> 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href="http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php" target="l">http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php</a><br /></div></blockquote>--<br signature="separator" />****<br />Dr Mathieu O'Neil<br />Adjunct Research Fellow<br />Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute<br />College of Arts and Social Science<br />The Australian National University<br />email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au<br />web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php</div>