Re: [P2P-F] Did you see this tweet ?
he's always been of the cynical type, I interviewed him for technocalyps, but he does mean well even that one is certainly sarcastic ... but the answer is of course a very clear no ... there is indeed a vast conspiracy out there .. would be nice to find a volunteer to do a social network analysis on it ... Michel On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Jon Husband <[email protected]> wrote:
It would be nice to assume Bruce Sterling meant well .. ;-)
bruces <http://twitter.com/#%21/bruces> Bruce Sterling http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Movements *I wonder if this vast, seething plethora of p2p movements are all the same fifty guys
Cheers,
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Even if its true, you can think of these 50 guys as a kind of steering group. Running a 'Cooperative' myself, I can tell you that it's only the same 6 people who really ever do anything. It's the way things go, I think. On 31 July 2011 08:24, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
he's always been of the cynical type, I interviewed him for technocalyps, but he does mean well even that one is certainly sarcastic ... but the answer is of course a very clear no ... there is indeed a vast conspiracy out there ..
would be nice to find a volunteer to do a social network analysis on it ...
Michel
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Jon Husband <[email protected]>wrote:
It would be nice to assume Bruce Sterling meant well .. ;-)
bruces <http://twitter.com/#%21/bruces> Bruce Sterling http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Movements *I wonder if this vast, seething plethora of p2p movements are all the same fifty guys
Cheers,
Jon Husband -- Wirearchy www.wirearchy.com "Social strategy and architecture for wired organizations"
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Always the way, no ? Until things get to breaking points (which sometimes I think we should have seen a while ago, but the structures of our western societies are quite tenacious indeed ;-) Jon On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Phoebe Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
Even if its true, you can think of these 50 guys as a kind of steering group. Running a 'Cooperative' myself, I can tell you that it's only the same 6 people who really ever do anything. It's the way things go, I think.
On 31 July 2011 08:24, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
he's always been of the cynical type, I interviewed him for technocalyps, but he does mean well even that one is certainly sarcastic ... but the answer is of course a very clear no ... there is indeed a vast conspiracy out there ..
would be nice to find a volunteer to do a social network analysis on it ...
Michel
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Jon Husband <[email protected]>wrote:
It would be nice to assume Bruce Sterling meant well .. ;-)
bruces <http://twitter.com/#%21/bruces> Bruce Sterling http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Movements *I wonder if this vast, seething plethora of p2p movements are all the same fifty guys
Cheers,
Jon Husband -- Wirearchy www.wirearchy.com "Social strategy and architecture for wired organizations"
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yes, it's the famous one percent rule, but let's face, running just one org is hard ... imagine just 50 of us running 1700 ..... so the real figure is at least 1700 times 'x', with x depending on the size of the organisation ... now of course, the real secret is that are really really running all those x's (shssss don't tell anyone) On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jon Husband <[email protected]> wrote:
Always the way, no ?
Until things get to breaking points (which sometimes I think we should have seen a while ago, but the structures of our western societies are quite tenacious indeed ;-)
Jon
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Phoebe Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
Even if its true, you can think of these 50 guys as a kind of steering group. Running a 'Cooperative' myself, I can tell you that it's only the same 6 people who really ever do anything. It's the way things go, I think.
On 31 July 2011 08:24, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
he's always been of the cynical type, I interviewed him for technocalyps, but he does mean well even that one is certainly sarcastic ... but the answer is of course a very clear no ... there is indeed a vast conspiracy out there ..
would be nice to find a volunteer to do a social network analysis on it ...
Michel
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Jon Husband <[email protected]>wrote:
It would be nice to assume Bruce Sterling meant well .. ;-)
bruces <http://twitter.com/#%21/bruces> Bruce Sterling http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Movements *I wonder if this vast, seething plethora of p2p movements are all the same fifty guys
Cheers,
Jon Husband -- Wirearchy www.wirearchy.com "Social strategy and architecture for wired organizations"
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