City-center occupations can work against dictatorships, in some cases, but they don't seem to be a sustainable strategy for radical social transformation. I heard that our Spanish friends started people's assemblies by neighborhoods. I'd love to learn more about them. George Sent from my iPad On Jun 13, 2011, at 1:32 PM, [email protected] wrote:
hi all,
I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign.
I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach.
greetings, Orsan
Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach out poeple and create a ripple effect!
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
great Orsan!
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
That would be great! > I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about > Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning: > > > > http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f... > > > Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: > > > I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and > >> individuals ... >> >> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her >> storify's, >> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already >> retweeted >> amaia's story ... >> >> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to >> keep >> track of developments in your own area, >> >> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level', >> >> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a >> weekly >> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? >> >> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word? >> >> Michel >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < >> [email protected] >>> wrote: >> >> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on >> 11.11.11 >> >>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great >>> idea. >>> If >>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they >>> are >>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time >>> to >>> globally link up and try. >>> >>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just >>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who >>> organise >>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out >>> there >>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to >>> go >>> and >>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either. >>> Many >>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and >>> they >>> don't >>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they >>> don't >>> try). >>> >>> >>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder >>> >>>> stike >>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is >>>> this >>>> process headed to! >>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>>> Egypt, >>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>>> harmonised >>>> city >>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>>> critical >>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action. >>>> So >>>> we >>>> need to link up! >>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global >>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>> the >>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>>> >>>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so >>>>>> that >>>>>> I >>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>>>> come >>>>>> out >>>>>> of >>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a >>>>>> pain" >>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping >>>>>> for a >>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of >>>>>> days >>>>>> and >>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for >>>>>> Sunday >>>>>> is >>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope >>>>>> o.O >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <[email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this >>>>>>> evolving >>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>>>> updates >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can >>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>>>> options >>>>>>> open >>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a >>>>>>> format >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>>>> happened >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards >>>>>>> deep >>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's >>>>>>> early >>>>>>> days, >>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically >>>>>>> schooled >>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> using >>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>>> tomorrow. 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