Re: [P2P-F] UROs are on the air
thank you George! On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
Στις 01/06/2011 10:43 πμ, ο/η Michel Bauwens έγραψε:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
Στις 29/05/2011 04:45 μμ, ο/η [email protected] έγραψε:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach out poeple and create a ripple effect!
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
great Orsan!
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
That would be great!
I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning:
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f...
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and
individuals ...
I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her storify's, which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already retweeted amaia's story ...
what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to keep track of developments in your own area,
then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level',
an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a weekly roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ??
we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word?
Michel
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < [email protected] >wrote:
The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on 11.11.11
> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great > idea. > If > the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they > are > surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time > to > globally link up and try. > > I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just > concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who > organise > stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out > there > and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to > go > and > see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either. > Many > find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and > they > don't > know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they > don't > try). > > > On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder > >> stike >> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is >> this >> process headed to! >> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >> Egypt, >> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >> harmonised >> city >> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >> critical >> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action. >> So >> we >> need to link up! >> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global >> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >> >> >> >> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >> >> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >> >> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets >>> in >>> >>> the >>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>> >>>> sent from my mobile device >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so >>>> that >>>> I >>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>> >>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>> come >>>> out >>>> of >>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a >>>> pain" >>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping >>>> for a >>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of >>>> days >>>> and >>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for >>>> Sunday >>>> is >>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope >>>> o.O >>>> >>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Chris, >>>> >>>> >>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>> endorsement, >>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this >>>>> evolving >>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>> >>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>> updates >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can >>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>> >>>>> Michel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>> dictatorship >>>>> in >>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>> about >>>>> the >>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>> >>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>> options >>>>> open >>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>> >>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is >>>>> not >>>>> a >>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a >>>>> format >>>>> for >>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>> happened >>>>> in >>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards >>>>> deep >>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's >>>>> early >>>>> days, >>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically >>>>> schooled >>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has >>>>> been >>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>> Catalunya >>>>> >>>>> using >>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>> celebration >>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding streets >>>>>> and >>>>>> are >>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges visible. >>>>>> the >>>>>> campers >>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> < >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net>http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>> >>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>> Discuss: >>>>> < >>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>> >>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens>http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> “We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>> humans >>>> if >>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth” >>>> Bruce >>>> Chatwin >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> -- >>> Sam Rose >>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>> skype: samuelrose >>> email: [email protected] >>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>> http://forwardfound.org >>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>> >>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>> ambition." >>> - Carl Sagan >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- > “We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as > humans if > we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth” Bruce > Chatwin > > _______________________________________________ > P2P Foundation - Mailing list > http://www.p2pfoundation.net > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
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hi all, I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign. I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach. greetings, Orsan Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach out poeple and create a ripple effect!
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
great Orsan!
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
That would be great!
I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning:
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f...
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and
> individuals ... > > I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her > storify's, > which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already > retweeted > amaia's story ... > > what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to > keep > track of developments in your own area, > > then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level', > > an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a > weekly > roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? > > we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word? > > Michel > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < > [email protected] > >wrote: > > The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on > 11.11.11 > >> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great >> idea. >> If >> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they >> are >> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time >> to >> globally link up and try. >> >> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just >> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who >> organise >> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out >> there >> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to >> go >> and >> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either. >> Many >> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and >> they >> don't >> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they >> don't >> try). >> >> >> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder >> >>> stike >>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is >>> this >>> process headed to! >>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>> Egypt, >>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>> harmonised >>> city >>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>> critical >>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action. >>> So >>> we >>> need to link up! >>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global >>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >>> >>> >>> >>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>> >>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets >>>> in >>>> >>>> the >>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>> >>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so >>>>> that >>>>> I >>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>> >>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>>> come >>>>> out >>>>> of >>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a >>>>> pain" >>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping >>>>> for a >>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of >>>>> days >>>>> and >>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for >>>>> Sunday >>>>> is >>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope >>>>> o.O >>>>> >>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this >>>>>> evolving >>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>>> updates >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can >>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ** >>>>>> >>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>> in >>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>>> about >>>>>> the >>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>> >>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>>> options >>>>>> open >>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is >>>>>> not >>>>>> a >>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a >>>>>> format >>>>>> for >>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>>> happened >>>>>> in >>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards >>>>>> deep >>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's >>>>>> early >>>>>> days, >>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically >>>>>> schooled >>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has >>>>>> been >>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>> >>>>>> using >>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding streets >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges visible. >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> campers >>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> < >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net>http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>>> Discuss: >>>>>> < >>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>> >>>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens>http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>>> humans >>>>> if >>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>> Bruce >>>>> Chatwin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Sam Rose >>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>> skype: samuelrose >>>> email: [email protected] >>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>> >>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>> ambition." >>>> - Carl Sagan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >> humans if >> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? 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Hi Orsan, We've also been talking to Mayo today and are going to be posting on p2p blog (today, soon) about 19th June and the Euro Pact and how there is talk of making it global so it's great we are all thinking the same! http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166343293429569 - have a look, it has info in English Amaia On 13 June 2011 14:32, <[email protected]> wrote:
hi all,
I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign.
I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach.
greetings, Orsan
Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF
for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach
out poeple and create a ripple effect!
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
great Orsan!
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
That would be great!
> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about > Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning: > > > > > http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f... > > > Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: > > > I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and > > individuals ... >> >> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her >> storify's, >> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already >> retweeted >> amaia's story ... >> >> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify >> to >> keep >> track of developments in your own area, >> >> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level', >> >> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a >> weekly >> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? >> >> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word? >> >> Michel >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < >> [email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on >> 11.11.11 >> >> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great >>> idea. >>> If >>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they >>> are >>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough >>> time >>> to >>> globally link up and try. >>> >>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just >>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who >>> organise >>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out >>> there >>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where >>> to >>> go >>> and >>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either. >>> Many >>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and >>> they >>> don't >>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so >>> they >>> don't >>> try). >>> >>> >>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like >>> thunder >>> >>> stike >>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is >>>> this >>>> process headed to! >>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>>> Egypt, >>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>>> harmonised >>>> city >>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>>> critical >>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an >>>> action. >>>> So >>>> we >>>> need to link up! >>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global >>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber >>>>> bullets >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>>> >>>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to >>>>>> so >>>>>> that >>>>>> I >>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>>>> come >>>>>> out >>>>>> of >>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being >>>>>> a >>>>>> pain" >>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping >>>>>> for a >>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple >>>>>> of >>>>>> days >>>>>> and >>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised >>>>>> for >>>>>> Sunday >>>>>> is >>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be >>>>>> hope >>>>>> o.O >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <[email protected] >>>>>> > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this >>>>>>> evolving >>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>>>> updates >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>>>> options >>>>>>> open >>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> format >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>>>> happened >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards >>>>>>> deep >>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's >>>>>>> early >>>>>>> days, >>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be >>>>>>> politically >>>>>>> schooled >>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding >>>>>>>> streets >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges >>>>>>>> visible. >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> campers >>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net>http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>>>> Discuss: >>>>>>> < >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens>http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens >>>>>>> ; >>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>>>> humans >>>>>> if >>>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>>> Bruce >>>>>> Chatwin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sam Rose >>>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>> >>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>>> ambition." >>>>> - Carl Sagan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>> humans if >>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>> Bruce >>> Chatwin >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> >> >> > > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
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Hey Amaia, I was guessing that you two might be in touch already, that is great to hear that you are so! the FB page looks very good indeed, well done! we might talk sometimes too my skype name is orsan1234 This week there are signs of another slowingdown in the global economy, and OPEC is having problems and suudiarabia is acting independently there are signs of acceleration in the momoentum! greetings Quoting Amaia Arcos <[email protected]>:
Hi Orsan,
We've also been talking to Mayo today and are going to be posting on p2p blog (today, soon) about 19th June and the Euro Pact and how there is talk of making it global so it's great we are all thinking the same!
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166343293429569 - have a look, it has info in English
Amaia
On 13 June 2011 14:32, <[email protected]> wrote:
hi all,
I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign.
I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach.
greetings, Orsan
Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF
for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach
out poeple and create a ripple effect!
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
great Orsan!
> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > That would be great! > >> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about >> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning: >> >> >> >> >> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f... >> >> >> Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: >> >> >> I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and >> >> individuals ... >>> >>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her >>> storify's, >>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already >>> retweeted >>> amaia's story ... >>> >>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify >>> to >>> keep >>> track of developments in your own area, >>> >>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level', >>> >>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a >>> weekly >>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? >>> >>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word? >>> >>> Michel >>> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < >>> [email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> >>> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on >>> 11.11.11 >>> >>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great >>>> idea. >>>> If >>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they >>>> are >>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough >>>> time >>>> to >>>> globally link up and try. >>>> >>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just >>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who >>>> organise >>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out >>>> there >>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where >>>> to >>>> go >>>> and >>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either. >>>> Many >>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and >>>> they >>>> don't >>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so >>>> they >>>> don't >>>> try). >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like >>>> thunder >>>> >>>> stike >>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is >>>>> this >>>>> process headed to! >>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>>>> Egypt, >>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>>>> harmonised >>>>> city >>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>>>> critical >>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an >>>>> action. >>>>> So >>>>> we >>>>> need to link up! >>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global >>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber >>>>>> bullets >>>>>> in >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>>>>> come >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> pain" >>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping >>>>>>> for a >>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> days >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> Sunday >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be >>>>>>> hope >>>>>>> o.O >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <[email protected] >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this >>>>>>>> evolving >>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>>>>> updates >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>>>>> options >>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> format >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards >>>>>>>> deep >>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's >>>>>>>> early >>>>>>>> days, >>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be >>>>>>>> politically >>>>>>>> schooled >>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding >>>>>>>>> streets >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges >>>>>>>>> visible. >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> campers >>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net>http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>>>>> Discuss: >>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens>http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>> ; >>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>>>>> humans >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>>>> Bruce >>>>>>> Chatwin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sam Rose >>>>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>>>> ambition." >>>>>> - Carl Sagan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>> humans if >>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>> Bruce >>>> Chatwin >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>> >>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > >
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Yes, we do need to chat at some point and catch up on stuff as we are both so into these protests! My skype user is guretxa, I am usually always online even if "invisible". Hoping to catch up on the Ning side of things soon, sorry I've not had a chance yet.. Also, are we friends on Facebook? I share there quite a bit too.. I can found as Gure Guretxa. I think I've already got you on Twitter.. I also think momentum is only going to accelerate from now on.. Let's coordinate soon :) Amaia On 13 June 2011 15:26, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey Amaia, I was guessing that you two might be in touch already, that is great to hear that you are so! the FB page looks very good indeed, well done! we might talk sometimes too my skype name is orsan1234
This week there are signs of another slowingdown in the global economy, and OPEC is having problems and suudiarabia is acting independently there are signs of acceleration in the momoentum!
greetings
Quoting Amaia Arcos <[email protected]>:
Hi Orsan,
We've also been talking to Mayo today and are going to be posting on p2p blog (today, soon) about 19th June and the Euro Pact and how there is talk of making it global so it's great we are all thinking the same!
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166343293429569 - have a look, it has info in English
Amaia
On 13 June 2011 14:32, <[email protected]> wrote:
hi all,
I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign.
I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach.
greetings, Orsan
Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF
for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach
> out > poeple and create a ripple effect! > > > Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: > > great Orsan! > > >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That would be great! >> >> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created >>> about >>> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f... >>> >>> >>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: >>> >>> >>> I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and >>> >>> individuals ... >>> >>>> >>>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her >>>> storify's, >>>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already >>>> retweeted >>>> amaia's story ... >>>> >>>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used >>>> storify >>>> to >>>> keep >>>> track of developments in your own area, >>>> >>>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level', >>>> >>>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a >>>> weekly >>>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? >>>> >>>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the >>>> word? >>>> >>>> Michel >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < >>>> [email protected] >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on >>>> 11.11.11 >>>> >>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a >>>> great >>>> >>>>> idea. >>>>> If >>>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, >>>>> they >>>>> are >>>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough >>>>> time >>>>> to >>>>> globally link up and try. >>>>> >>>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow >>>>> just >>>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many >>>>> who >>>>> organise >>>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out >>>>> there >>>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where >>>>> to >>>>> go >>>>> and >>>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea >>>>> either. >>>>> Many >>>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and >>>>> they >>>>> don't >>>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so >>>>> they >>>>> don't >>>>> try). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like >>>>> thunder >>>>> >>>>> stike >>>>> >>>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where >>>>>> is >>>>>> this >>>>>> process headed to! >>>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>>>>> Egypt, >>>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>>>>> harmonised >>>>>> city >>>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>>>>> critical >>>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an >>>>>> action. >>>>>> So >>>>>> we >>>>>> need to link up! >>>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar >>>>>> global >>>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber >>>>>>> bullets >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started >>>>>>>> "being >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> pain" >>>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only >>>>>>>> hoping >>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a >>>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> Sunday >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be >>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>> o.O >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < < >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> evolving >>>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>>>>>> updates >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>>>>>> options >>>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish >>>>>>>>> movement >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have >>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> format >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process >>>>>>>>> towards >>>>>>>>> deep >>>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. >>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>> early >>>>>>>>> days, >>>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be >>>>>>>>> politically >>>>>>>>> schooled >>>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding >>>>>>>>>> streets >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges >>>>>>>>>> visible. >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> campers >>>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net>http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>>>>>> Discuss: >>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>>>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>>>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>>> ; >>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> humans >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>>>>> Bruce >>>>>>>> Chatwin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sam Rose >>>>>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>>>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with >>>>>>> human >>>>>>> ambition." >>>>>>> - Carl Sagan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>>> humans if >>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>> Bruce >>>>> Chatwin >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>> >>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>> >>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> >> >> > > >
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really happy that you are finding each other ... please use all the resources of the p2p foundation ecology as needed, I would just say the following: the main blog is for analysis and trend analysis, the ning blog for announcement and actions .. it's not a hard and fast disctintion but helps giving the various resources have their own use and identity ... I added 3 items in the blog today, planned for publication 13 to 16, On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Amaia Arcos <[email protected]>wrote:
Yes, we do need to chat at some point and catch up on stuff as we are both so into these protests! My skype user is guretxa, I am usually always online even if "invisible". Hoping to catch up on the Ning side of things soon, sorry I've not had a chance yet.. Also, are we friends on Facebook? I share there quite a bit too.. I can found as Gure Guretxa. I think I've already got you on Twitter..
I also think momentum is only going to accelerate from now on.. Let's coordinate soon :)
Amaia
On 13 June 2011 15:26, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey Amaia, I was guessing that you two might be in touch already, that is great to hear that you are so! the FB page looks very good indeed, well done! we might talk sometimes too my skype name is orsan1234
This week there are signs of another slowingdown in the global economy, and OPEC is having problems and suudiarabia is acting independently there are signs of acceleration in the momoentum!
greetings
Quoting Amaia Arcos <[email protected]>:
Hi Orsan,
We've also been talking to Mayo today and are going to be posting on p2p blog (today, soon) about 19th June and the Euro Pact and how there is talk of making it global so it's great we are all thinking the same!
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166343293429569 - have a look, it has info in English
Amaia
On 13 June 2011 14:32, <[email protected]> wrote:
hi all,
I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign.
I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach.
greetings, Orsan
Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF
> for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized > they > were > not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 > people > gathered yesterday at Syntagma square. > > > > http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531 > > George > > > ???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????: > > > To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to > reach > >> out >> poeple and create a ripple effect! >> >> >> Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: >> >> great Orsan! >> >> >>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> That would be great! >>> >>> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created >>>> about >>>> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f... >>>> >>>> >>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> >>>> I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives >>>> and >>>> >>>> individuals ... >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her >>>>> storify's, >>>>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has >>>>> already >>>>> retweeted >>>>> amaia's story ... >>>>> >>>>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used >>>>> storify >>>>> to >>>>> keep >>>>> track of developments in your own area, >>>>> >>>>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global >>>>> level', >>>>> >>>>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a >>>>> weekly >>>>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? >>>>> >>>>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the >>>>> word? >>>>> >>>>> Michel >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on >>>>> 11.11.11 >>>>> >>>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a >>>>> great >>>>> >>>>>> idea. >>>>>> If >>>>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, >>>>>> they >>>>>> are >>>>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough >>>>>> time >>>>>> to >>>>>> globally link up and try. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow >>>>>> just >>>>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many >>>>>> who >>>>>> organise >>>>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is >>>>>> out >>>>>> there >>>>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent >>>>>> where >>>>>> to >>>>>> go >>>>>> and >>>>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea >>>>>> either. >>>>>> Many >>>>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data >>>>>> and >>>>>> they >>>>>> don't >>>>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so >>>>>> they >>>>>> don't >>>>>> try). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like >>>>>> thunder >>>>>> >>>>>> stike >>>>>> >>>>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> process headed to! >>>>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>>>>>> Egypt, >>>>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>>>>>> harmonised >>>>>>> city >>>>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>>>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>>>>>> critical >>>>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an >>>>>>> action. >>>>>>> So >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> need to link up! >>>>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar >>>>>>> global >>>>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such >>>>>>> uprising! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber >>>>>>>> bullets >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started >>>>>>>>> "being >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> pain" >>>>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only >>>>>>>>> hoping >>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a >>>>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> Sunday >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be >>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>> o.O >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < < >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> evolving >>>>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for >>>>>>>>>> regular >>>>>>>>>> updates >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are >>>>>>>>>> open-minded >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> options >>>>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish >>>>>>>>>> movement >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have >>>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> format >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why >>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process >>>>>>>>>> towards >>>>>>>>>> deep >>>>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. >>>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>> early >>>>>>>>>> days, >>>>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be >>>>>>>>>> politically >>>>>>>>>> schooled >>>>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping >>>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a >>>>>>>>>>> football >>>>>>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding >>>>>>>>>>> streets >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges >>>>>>>>>>> visible. >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> campers >>>>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>>>>>>> Discuss: >>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>>>>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>>>>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>>>> ; >>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our >>>>>>>>> purpose as >>>>>>>>> humans >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the >>>>>>>>> earth? >>>>>>>>> Bruce >>>>>>>>> Chatwin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sam Rose >>>>>>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>>>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>>>>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>>>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with >>>>>>>> human >>>>>>>> ambition." >>>>>>>> - Carl Sagan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>>>> humans if >>>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>>> Bruce >>>>>> Chatwin >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>> >>>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>> >>>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>> >>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
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City-center occupations can work against dictatorships, in some cases, but they don't seem to be a sustainable strategy for radical social transformation. I heard that our Spanish friends started people's assemblies by neighborhoods. I'd love to learn more about them. George Sent from my iPad On Jun 13, 2011, at 1:32 PM, [email protected] wrote:
hi all,
I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign.
I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach.
greetings, Orsan
Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach out poeple and create a ripple effect!
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
great Orsan!
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
That would be great! > I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about > Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning: > > > > http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f... > > > Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: > > > I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and > >> individuals ... >> >> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her >> storify's, >> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already >> retweeted >> amaia's story ... >> >> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to >> keep >> track of developments in your own area, >> >> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level', >> >> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a >> weekly >> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? >> >> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word? >> >> Michel >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < >> [email protected] >>> wrote: >> >> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on >> 11.11.11 >> >>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great >>> idea. >>> If >>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they >>> are >>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time >>> to >>> globally link up and try. >>> >>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just >>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who >>> organise >>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out >>> there >>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to >>> go >>> and >>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either. >>> Many >>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and >>> they >>> don't >>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they >>> don't >>> try). >>> >>> >>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder >>> >>>> stike >>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is >>>> this >>>> process headed to! >>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>>> Egypt, >>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>>> harmonised >>>> city >>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>>> critical >>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action. >>>> So >>>> we >>>> need to link up! >>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global >>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>> the >>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>>> >>>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so >>>>>> that >>>>>> I >>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>>>> come >>>>>> out >>>>>> of >>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a >>>>>> pain" >>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping >>>>>> for a >>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of >>>>>> days >>>>>> and >>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for >>>>>> Sunday >>>>>> is >>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope >>>>>> o.O >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <[email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this >>>>>>> evolving >>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>>>> updates >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can >>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>>>> options >>>>>>> open >>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a >>>>>>> format >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>>>> happened >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards >>>>>>> deep >>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's >>>>>>> early >>>>>>> days, >>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically >>>>>>> schooled >>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> using >>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding streets >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges visible. >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> campers >>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net>http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>>>> Discuss: >>>>>>> < >>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens>http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>>>> humans >>>>>> if >>>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>>> Bruce >>>>>> Chatwin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Sam Rose >>>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>> >>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>>> ambition." >>>>> - Carl Sagan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>> humans if >>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? 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Dear George, once you get access to the blog as author, you can see different articles planned for the next few days on these topics: see already my recent tags but especially http://roarmag.org/2011/06/in-greece-days-of-unrest-and-hope/ http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2011/05/athens-decisions-of-popular-assembl... http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2011/01/ideas-on-peoples-assemblies/ On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:52 PM, George Por < [email protected]> wrote:
City-center occupations can work against dictatorships, in some cases, but they don't seem to be a sustainable strategy for radical social transformation.
I heard that our Spanish friends started people's assemblies by neighborhoods. I'd love to learn more about them.
George
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 13, 2011, at 1:32 PM, [email protected] wrote:
hi all,
I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts the fire at the european and the world levels, we may involve all together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a more coordinated glboal camaign.
I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that would give our message a global out reach.
greetings, Orsan
Quoting Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
thank you George!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>wrote:
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
George
???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou < [email protected]> wrote:
Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
George
???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? [email protected] ??????:
To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach
out
poeple and create a ripple effect!
Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>:
great Orsan! > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > That would be great! >> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about >> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning: >> >> >> >> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-f... >> >> >> Citeren Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>: >> >> >> I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and >> >>> individuals ... >>> >>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her >>> storify's, >>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already >>> retweeted >>> amaia's story ... >>> >>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to >>> keep >>> track of developments in your own area, >>> >>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level', >>> >>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a >>> weekly >>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ?? >>> >>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word? >>> >>> Michel >>> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos < >>> [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>> >>> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on >>> 11.11.11 >>> >>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great >>>> idea. >>>> If >>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they >>>> are >>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time >>>> to >>>> globally link up and try. >>>> >>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just >>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who >>>> organise >>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out >>>> there >>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to >>>> go >>>> and >>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either. >>>> Many >>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and >>>> they >>>> don't >>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they >>>> don't >>>> try). >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder >>>> >>>>> stike >>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is >>>>> this >>>>> process headed to! >>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, >>>>> Egypt, >>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a >>>>> harmonised >>>>> city >>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally? >>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an >>>>> critical >>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action. >>>>> So >>>>> we >>>>> need to link up! >>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global >>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets >>>>>> in >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sent from my mobile device >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos < [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could >>>>>>> come >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a >>>>>>> pain" >>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping >>>>>>> for a >>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of >>>>>>> days >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for >>>>>>> Sunday >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope >>>>>>> o.O >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < < [email protected]> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following >>>>>>>> endorsement, >>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this >>>>>>>> evolving >>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as >>>>>>>> pointwoman, in >>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular >>>>>>>> updates >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can >>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market >>>>>>>> dictatorship >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all >>>>>>>> options >>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a >>>>>>>> format >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what >>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards >>>>>>>> deep >>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's >>>>>>>> early >>>>>>>> days, >>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically >>>>>>>> schooled >>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen << >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça >>>>>>>> Catalunya >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football >>>>>>>>> celebration >>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding streets >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges visible. >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> campers >>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen* >>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com >>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net>http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> P2P Foundation: <http://p2pfoundation.net> >>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net>http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Connect: <http://p2pfoundation.ning.com> >>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; >>>>>>>> Discuss: >>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Updates: <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens> >>>>>>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >>>>>>>> <http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens> http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/mbauwens>http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >>>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> >>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>>>>> humans >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? >>>>>>> Bruce >>>>>>> Chatwin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>>>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sam Rose >>>>>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >>>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>> http://futureforwardinstitute.com >>>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>>> http://hollymeadcapital.com >>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>>>> ambition." >>>>>> - Carl Sagan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> ?We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as >>>> humans if >>>> we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth? Bruce >>>> Chatwin >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >>>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >>> >>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > >
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