thanks Sam, for all the good work you are attempting there On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
I think then the first thing would be to identify individuals on a local level, and proceed from there
do you know the digital justice coalition in detroit?
Yes, this is good advice for sure. Getting the people who have been active in Michigan around these issues to coordinate and collaborate is definitely worthwhile. They are largely fractured.
No offense is meant by this, but digital justice is only one aspect of the political advocacy that we're pursuing here. Especially now that the state government is actually taking over whole towns, bringing corporate cronies, etc. There are coalitions building now where "digital justice" folks could easily have a place at the table though.
We already have a lot of progress in doing the same coalition building around Food systems here in Michigan and in the region.
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Michel Bauwens <
wrote:
hi Kevin,
I completely agree with your approach, which seems congruent with mine,
Michel
Yes, on board with this too. In fact, I am also interested in working with unions, and even local branches of parties like the Democrats where there is support for commons/p2p approaches.
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Kevin Carson <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Sam,
I'm personally not suggesting that p2p people should create a political party, BUT, I do think that we should have bridges to the institutional world, and that includes a network of sympathetic politicians,
so it's not about creating a p2p political party, but of
meshworking
political and non-political people around shared concerns wherever they can be active
I think what you suggest is the optimal form of political participation. The first emphasis should be on building counterinstitutions at the local level and taking advantage of the potential offered by liberatory technologies to create spaces outside of state/corporate control, as Sam writes here:
Instead, I am really focused on
> providing plausible alternatives to food, energy, education, > technology and culture systems in our cities and communities, where > people can co-govern the resources, an collaborate with others in > the > region who are doing the same.
To the extent that we're involved in politics, it should be by developing informal friendly ties and networking with particular individuals inside the party establishments, or by participating in ad hoc issue-oriented pressure campaigns in coalition with groups like EFF.
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