On 10/11/11 13:56, John Robb wrote:
Would love to see David do an interview on this.
Also, would be more than happy to put out a request for translators interested in joining a virtual cooperative.
Wow! It would be the perfect «platform cooperative»! Only a virtual platform is needed with a system to address the customers to the translators according to their needs and pay the translators as soon as possible. Would we make it open introducing a ranking system as Juanto made for «Bazar»?
Sincerely,
JR ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> *To:* David de Ugarte <[email protected]> *Cc:* Neal Gorenflo <[email protected]>; P2P Foundation mailing list <[email protected]>; John Robb <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:39 AM *Subject:* Re: [P2P-F] OSE Europe - Open Process
ok, waiting 4 neal's ok,
Micel
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, David de Ugarte <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Nope :-( We are trying to organize a coop of translators in our group (as we could be an excellent first customer) but by the moment I have everything in Spanish...
On 10/11/11 03:51, Michel Bauwens wrote:
have you explained this vision in an english text?
I would also suggest Neal and I interview you on this topic 4 a shareable interview bk we are doing,
Michel
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM, David de Ugarte <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
my take is that lasindias would be happy with a phyle-based capitalism, while my endeavour is more clearly post-capitalist, but I may be wrong,
Not really, we are happy in a free market system but free market is not capitalism. Capitalism is about the power and access to capital. Phyle mutualism is about market, of course, but is not capitalism as capital is a common, invisible, good there. No power on capital when you have free access to capital.
The «source oriented» economy is about demerchantilization, meaning a comunist model for all society: no money, no merchandise... no interchange, just donation. Something as information is in the blogsphere. It needs some kind of abundance in phisical goods similar to informational abundance provided by distributed networks in Internet.
Probably productivity allows our generation to build a communist society in information and a free market mutualist (but also competitive) society in the goods markets... but no more.
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