Dear friends, on the maillist from NetworkedLabour, now i am excluded, Michel wrote in a discussion: -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [Networkedlabour] Fwd: Ontogenesis and the Negation of Life and Death (was Re: Internet: the INTER-connection of local NET-works) Datum: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:04:28 +0700 Von: Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> An: [email protected] <[email protected]> the first email I ever got from willi was an accusation that I was an austrian economist, the very people I have been fighting for so many years; I have since simply ignored any email communication coming from him; I am surprised that people are so tolerant against systematic ad hominem attacks that are often slanderous and based on pure ignorance and projection; we used to manage this on p2p-f list, asking people to focus on arguments ... but once I gave up , I notice no one else seems to care about this deterioration of discourse ethics, Michel On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Kevin Carson <[email protected]> wrote:
I set up a gmail filter because I was getting sick of willi
free.market.anticapitalist from Kevin Carson. What is that? Yes Michel. The PPL is a "free market" instrument. Independent of your intention. And independent, that you think, you fight against the "austrian economist", you act at the same level with your PPL. We have read the critical reflection from Jakob Rigi and Stephan Meretz. You don't like the principal discussion about market orientation. Then you write, i have say, you are a CIA agent. But you know very clear, that never i do it. But Hellekin do it to me. It is not important. It is like the "political commissars" from Cuba in Venezuela. They don't like to args in a discussion. Therefore they have generated this personal slander. Like Hellekin and some people in the P2P-lang-es maillist. The market orientation have only one goal. To create a parasitic space. For that they organize the money system. And they create the term "knowledge worker". People who never work for their material livelihood. They live from the work of others. But in our future it is impossible. All people have to be part of this working. Then we can reduce the necessary labor to 8 hours or lesser in the week. As an average. Of course, for many tasks we concentrate our labour time. If we construct machines or electronic systems we need the concentration of time. But what people in this lists and discussion environment have ever been active in the real working? Oriented to the material forming for that, what we need for our life? Only very few. The most are only speakers and writers. No more. This is the core for "market orientation". Because you have nothing for directly exchange, you need the abstraction level of a money system. Very simple. many greetings, willi Popayan, Colombia