maybe james will be motivated by the easier interface? On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
Cyclonite, personally I am ready to work with bitcoin today, although the rest of p2pf may not be, which I'll respect
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Cyclonite <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Guys,
I think there is some kind of misunderstanding here, you do not need to manually generate any kind of public/private keys as with OpenPGP.
You can even sign up in a website as mybitcoin.com and start making or receiving donations.
In my opinion the best available info for beginners is http://bitcoinme.com. Please take a look and you will get your doubts clear.
Best regards, Cyclonite. -- Secure Email contact: https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg Bitcoin donations jar: 16FVZweaaJLvhAy91oDugqaf84kXiDJ9PG
-------- Original Message -------- From: Samuel Rose <[email protected]> To: james burke <[email protected]> Cc: Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>, [email protected], p2p-foundation <[email protected]>, Sepp Hasslberger < [email protected]>, Georg Pleger <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Bitcoin donation Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:30:23 -0500
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:54 AM, james burke <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Michel, Yes, I do have a public key, but yet again, another nice idea with terrible interaction design and userbility - most people have no clue about public private keys, so this keeps it a geek thing
I agree, although as far as I can see, the application at least takes care of this for the user. Still, your point is valid in that some people may not understand what is happening.
Most of the users of bitcoin now are early adopters, however. So, if p2pf did support donation via bitcoin, it would be joining an ecology of early adopters, and would likely only receive donation from those early adopters.
- the actual app upon launch is unclear. Where to click, what to do,gah!
I can't really support this even if it is a p2p solution. James
Seems reasonable. If p2pf changes it's mind, I'm willing to participate in any experiments with bitcoin
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michel Bauwens < [email protected]> wrote:
James,
do you have a public key?
Michel
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Samuel Rose <[email protected]
wrote:
This is a p2p application, so we would need to post your's or
James's
public key, and people who want to donate bitcoins would need then send you the bitcoins by downloading the bitcoin application and sending it to you
quote:
"Bitcoin utilizes public/private key digital signatures (ECDSA). A coin has its owner's public key on it. When a coin is transferred from user A to user B, A adds B’s public key to the coin and signs it with his own private key. Now B owns the coin and can transfer it further. To prevent A from transferring the already used coin to another user C, a public list of all the previous transactions is collectively maintained by the network of Bitcoin nodes, and before each transaction the coin’s unusedness will be checked."
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote: > Sam, can you help us install it on the wiki and blog? > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Samuel Rose < [email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I've downloaded and installed and am game to try with p2pf network >> folks. >> >> This could actually be really useful for lots of local economy efforts >> too. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Michel Bauwens >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Dear, >> > >> > thanks a lot for this email, >> > >> > it seems that it is worthwhile for us to experiment with this, but I >> > will >> > forward this to James Burke for possible implementation >> > >> > James, I think we should do this, what do you think? >> > >> > Michel >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:42 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> Dear friends, >> >> >> >> I have been looking in your site for any reference to Bitcoin for >> >> making a >> >> small donation. >> >> >> >> As you probably know, Bitcoin (bitcoin.org) is a new kind >> >> of a >> >> P2P >> >> crypto-currency in which the general public can make donations, >> >> macro >> >> or >> >> micropayments in a secure and anonymous way usually >> >> without >> >> any >> >> transaction fee involved. >> >> >> >> You can change Bitcoins for real money (eg: https://mtgox.com) or >> >> purchase >> >> services or goods in an increasing number of sites. >> >> >> >> In order to receive donations you only have to publish one >> >> of >> >> your >> >> accounts as generated by the bitcoin client or any specialized >> >> bitcoin >> >> trader (eg: mybitcoin.com). >> >> >> >> Currently some projects as www.i2p2.de, >> >> www.torrentservers.net >> >> and >> >> organizations like the EFF are accepting donations. >> >> >> >> In my opinion this kind of decentralized solution without the >> >> need >> >> to >> >> trust any middlemen is much better than Paypal, Visa or >> >> Mastercard >> >> for >> >> security-minded people as most of your donors are. >> >> >> >> If you are interested in pushing Bitcoin forward, do not >> >> hesitate >> >> to >> >> contact me if you have any doubt. >> >> >> >> Yours, >> >> Cyclonite >> >> __ >> >> OpenPGP Email: https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg >> >> bitcoin donations: 16FVZweaaJLvhAy91oDugqaf84kXiDJ9PG >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNKlVFAAoJEL/jfnFwT5SQ5boP/jCyIMBs4PoIT/+ztLgkzmlV >> >> cEqjhJ0dDFqj/yIPzf1Yy3yaOKukaiTncFjqpgIkVvKD3mdRy0H00smQSR6V8+7u >> >> mAtNmp2KLSQgbuwNqh/BI2qFZYnc0ZR5bpwExzCMDkfbiMiKap4Aanh6O87FS5Jj >> >> B6Mlbp9r0BegyInlY1vF9g2fqLN1dt22YzH+fwSxoCt1R7/T6nNNc3TIEreWH464 >> >> pPIBfKKPupAHD6u5A8snDp4LddPuyeuFVdxVWRxSqB7WIZz47mqYWNI74vGUVT2z >> >> 0tGlIY+zf3Pov32FEJrI/VlSfRdtIENaoVzWXMvoaH5eVVUD/iVH0lqVrdVMqtJD >> >> ZigS/0dHEwGk32dJ/WJ6veRfKRznS6rePN7oxMeY62AuKUdSNJbtwo6WPApXQJwF >> >> aF54XrOaKeZYXPWO4TZLQWTOjNE8UVz7j05ilaQkwYFJ0HxuR+knciM4eDCwHv5j >> >> Buueis3OAs1+lVUAM676h6HaU5CBRYqfr4we9DvdKk9rZWcXlJpcUGykcGIVxB4a >> >> sfhx5vc+jyNCYMMWbaulVhDMlI9ReA5WIpNpEQhh5gFALrwewF1uWBLJ9EjeDkja >> >> 4DOspqg6Kregt8LKEN5ozvaA6AFdWjuJxm0HHVNoZt7dy3zET7Wr/uf4B3g6JtMd >> >> iZY0cioLj/3TVVy6llWS >> >> =50gB >> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> > >> > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> > >> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >> > >> > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; >> > http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> > >> > Think tank: >> > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Sam Rose >> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation >> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >> skype: samuelrose >> email: [email protected] >> http://forwardfound.org >> http://futureforwardinstitute.org >> http://hollymeadcapital.com >> http://p2pfoundation.net >> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >> >> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >> ambition." - Carl Sagan > > > > -- > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > Think tank: > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI > > > > >
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