Sorry - forgot to paste the record of the meeting last week: Ian Hargreaves wrote the major report on copyright which the UK government has announced it will be implementing "for the most part" Phil Nelson is the head of research sean Dear All, An initial meeting was held today with Lorraine Warren, Sean Cubitt, Gehard Kling and Luc Moreau, to discuss direction and ideas for an EOI for the Centre for Copyright and new Business Models in the Creative Industries. In summary: There was discussion and agreement about the value of comparisons between alternative methodologies such as peer to peer, creative commons, gift economy and crowd sourcing - and existing IP approaches; from legal, business and cultural/historical perspectives. There was agreement about the need to develop models of 'how to measure value' in the creative industries, and comparisons of business/value models – identifying what models drive success in the creative industries. As there will be one centre funded in the UK there will need to be considerable links either Hub and spoke or as networks. Current links with Brighton, Sussex, The British Film Institute and the London International Film School were mentioned. Partners would need to include SME’s/SME membership organisations such as the South Coast Design Forum. It is clear that the successful bid will have considerable collaborations across the range of creative and digital industries, as well as world leading academics across the relevant fields. As attendees had to leave at this point, it was agreed that I would circulate the summary of this initial meeting. The next steps will need to be academic decisions about: · Who will lead an IOE? · Do we want to be a ‘Lead HEI’ or would we want to partner? (It was raised as an observation that that whichever bid Ian Hargreaves (Cardiff) is involved with may well stand the best chance, as he is a key driver in this area of policy) NOTE: We can only be a Lead HEI on one bid, but the call documentation is silent about partnering on more than one bid. Please let me know if a bid will be progressed (either as a Lead HEI or partner HEI) and Research and Innovation Services will provide support as required. PLEASE NOTE: I will be on leave from 4th – 10th August and again from 20th to 30th August, but Niki Price (Bid Manager)[email protected] will be available to support the bidding process. Any bid will have to be signed off by Phil Nelson. With Regards Nikki Nicola Matthews Collaboration Manager (Social & Human Sciences, Humanities, Business& law) Research & Innovation Services Building 37, R4107 University of Southampton Highfield Southampton SO17 1BJ Phone: 023 8059 8340 Internal: 28340 web: www.soton.ac.uk/ris/ On 08/08/2011 14:57, "Cubitt S.R." <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
We have had meetings with other research staff at southampton. I'll attach / paste the record of the meeting. There are suggestions that this may not be a very open call, but none of us know for sure. I said I woud try to circulate something early this week in draft but was delayed returning from Amsterdam. We also have some ideas of other collaborators, especially along the south coast - there are strong reasons to go for collaboratons. This relates to another important thoughtin the notes: creative industries are characteristically small - family / individual small group practices in design etc etc. Big collaborators may or may not help understand their economics. Regional associations wd be an excellent way to reach many small companies - better tyhan contacting one big one. I also suggest we work with entreprises who may have diffeent ideas, especially in distribution - people like Rough Trade Records, or Lux film-video distributors: indie distribution has always lived from hand to mouth but can't afford - usually - open access
It is a pain they have chosen this time of year: suggests they are keen to reduce the number of centres competing
I'll try to outline a workable idea overnight or tomorrow morning - it has to go round our Southampton colleagues in busines school, engineering and compter science etc, alliances which are not as conservarive as I feared, by any means, but have what they regard - probably with reason - as a more realistic apprach to the process of persuading a now throughly ideological grant-giving appararus reasons to give us the money
sean
On 07/08/2011 22:23, "Volker Grassmuck" <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Franco, all,
thanks for pinging us. Yes, you are absolutely right, we have to get moving. I was delayed due to my Lebanon trip and a crashed computer but I did start to work on the sections off-wiki. I am confident that we will be able to work out appealing proposals to most of them. However, two I think are time-critical.
Since it is an 80% funding, we will have to come up with an additional £1.25 million. Google came to mind. They just committed €4,5 million to an Institute for Internet and Society at Humboldt University that will be launched in October. That might make it less likely that they support another research institute but I could ask. The question is would we feel comfortable with Google? Which other funding partners could you think of? How much could University of Southampton contribute, if any? Do contributions in kind count, i.e. infrastructure for hosting the Centre? What could be sources of sustained funding after the four-year period? Can we mention EU FP8 calls even though we know that the success rate is only 10%?
The other issue that will take time is finding partners. Here are some candidates:
- Berkman Center, Harvard - Center for Technology and Society, FGV Rio - NEXA Center for Internet and Society, Politecnico di Torino - IvIR, Amsterdam - MPI for Intellectual Property and Competition Law, Munich - the COMMUNIA Non-Profit Association - Rufus, Pollock, Open Knowledge Foundation - Philippe Aigrain, Paris - Alan Story, University of Kent
Depending on what issues we want to highlight (e.g. open access, privacy, mobile phones, collective management) others come to mind. Given the strong emphasis on creative industries, partners from some of the sectors would certainly be an asset, e.g. the new Games Lab at Paderborn University. But very likely these should be UK institutions which I am less familiar with. How about Mute Magazine?
I could approach all of those mentioned but would like to get feedback from you first. Shall we brainstorm on funding and partners over the next days? I will also send drafts on the other sections so we have something to work with.
Best, Volker
Am 07.08.2011 um 15:31 schrieb Franco Iacomella:
Hi to all, we are almost one month behind the deadline and we got no progress at all in the proposal writing for the "Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in the Creative Economy" (http://p2pfoundation.net/projects/doku.php/centre:resume).
At this point we would need to evaluate if we got the necessary commitment to achieve the proposal preparation objective. It would be good to know if Jussi and Volker would be able to lead this project as was expected.
Thanks and best regards,
-- Franco Iacomella
_______________________________________________ Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in the Creative Economy Wiki space: http://p2pfoundation.net/projects/doku.php/centre:resume
_______________________________________________ Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in the Creative Economy Wiki space: http://p2pfoundation.net/projects/doku.php/centre:resume
_______________________________________________ Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in the Creative Economy Wiki space: http://p2pfoundation.net/projects/doku.php/centre:resume