[Tree-project-organise] Minutes of Community Tree Project Meeting January 4th 2014

[abigailgibbs at yahoo.com]

Ooh I drive near east meon once a month. Hope it goes well with Marion. Speak soon x

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> On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:42, Spencer Thomas <thomspenc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Avery did manage to contact Marion beforen he went to Portugal and I am hoping to meet her next Monday to discuss possibility of using her area as a green burial site. I'll feedback what her reaction is; I've not even seen the site yet so keeping expectations in check....or trying to.
> Abbi, there's another costing the earth tonight on the detramental environmental effects of embalming. There is definitely a demand growing for a more acceptable way of dealing with our dead. The sustainability centre in East Meon sounds like the sort of model we might emulate? I think big companies are going to cash in soon on natural burial grounds and denigrate the whole thing.....
> If any one is interested there's a very good guide published by ministry of justice "Natural burial grounds, Guidance for operators" which is available online. 
> Sp x
> 
> abigailgibbs at yahoo.com wrote:
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> Hiya all,  radio 4 did a programme on green burial in 'costing the earth' prob still on iplayer. 
> 
> Sorry to hear bout the response Avery, he sounded like a bit of a nob anyway. Ian going to buy some land this year so we'll defo have something soonish. 
> 
> I'm signed up to do a forest school practitioner course in April, so something else to add to our communal skill set x x
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 31 Jan 2014, at 12:32, avery howell <averyhowell at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Action points.
>> 
>> so by way of an update on the action points, from my side.
>> 
>> After the meeting i did ring harvey to discuss the matters we had discussed (helping to build a barn which we could jointly use).And to organise Lenny and myself to go view the site and materials. Perhaps it was a bit hasty, as i was all fired up from our constructive meeting and maybe dove in a bit bull-headed ,trying to get something moving while it was still hot!
>> It didnt go so well. 
>> He was in the middle of bathing his kid so i should have let it go. however he seemed keen to talk. I told him there were a few volunteers we could muster and we just wanted to help him build and had discussed some ideas. From the start i got the feeling he was digging his feet in and shutting me off at every suggestion. I guess he must have felt a bit like his project was getting taken over or something because he was absolutely determined to ignore any input i tried to give, i got a bit hot headed and said something like "if we volunteer our time and energy do we get no say in the plans?" and the phone went dead. So he either dropped the phone in the bath....or took my question as too pushy.
>> I havnt followed it up. I did get the feeling that it was his way or the highway and sort of lost interest. I am too busy with my own life for that.
>> Not to say it is a dead end just that maybe someone else will have to start again.And actually I am too busy in the next 6 weeks to waste days on a dead end.
>> 
>> As for Marion I wrote a very nice e-mail (from my phone-which sometimes mis sends) and have had no reply. I was trying to get a foot in the door for spence as i know the woodland burial is something they are both currently considering. Having had no reply i am not sure if that is a polite "no" or something else. I will call her at some point when both spence and i are less busy.
>> I still think Marion and Preston Park would be a good small scale starting point.
>> 
>> On a more productive point, I went back to meet Nick (landowner or harveys leased area) and introduced someone from my workshop who bought some oak planks for a commission and am getting to knoe him a bit. Whilst waiting for him we were introduced to Nick (WEston?) who wrote a book about living in a treehouse and runs a foraging school from nicks wood.He was about to start skinning a deer with a group from London, so i was brief but he wants to build a treehouse for the foraging school and i said id be happy lend a day or two or maybe more. Anyone interested? 
>> It seems Nick is keen to use his wood for good. 
>> Avery
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:07:55 -0800
>> From: abigailgibbs at yahoo.com
>> To: tree-project-organise at lists.ourproject.org; tree-project-organise at lists.ourproject.org
>> Subject: Re: [Tree-project-organise] Minutes of Community Tree Project	Meeting	January 4th 2014
>> 
>> Anyone up for a seedy Sunday! I'll be there if you fancy a mooch round for potential ctp partners etc x
>> 
>> From: Darren <mail at vegburner.co.uk>;                            
>> To: CTP <tree-project-organise at lists.ourproject.org>; 
>> Subject: [Tree-project-organise] Minutes of Community Tree Project Meeting	January 4th 2014 
>> Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2014 6:14:33 PM 
>> 
>> Action points -
>> *Avery and Lenny go look at Nicks woods in Lewis
>> *Avery price up screws etc. for barn building
>> *Spence and Avery to talk to Marion about her site near Preston Park
>> *Draft a letter to send to landowners (low priority??)
>> 
>> Letter to landowners
>> Woodland Burials
>> Structure in Harveys/Nicks woodland
>> Preston Park woods
>> Rapoports woodland
>> Shop space in Lewis High Street
>> 
>> Letter to landowners
>> It would be good to draft a letter that could be given to land owners stating our ideas and that we are looking at land.
>> There was some discussion about whether this is necessary right now as we have 3 sites where it looks like we may be able to do some stuff.
>> There was some discussion about the best way to approach land owners.  Purely as a forestry enterprise wanting access to woodland for timber/firewood or as a social project - is this going to be scary for land owners? 
>> 
>> Woodland Burials
>> Spence has been working on a proposal for a woodland burial service which would provide a complete service for people who are recently bereaved.  His research has showed that there is a strong business case and that existing services are somewhat lacking in their sensitivity. 
>>  
>> Structure in Harveys/Nicks woodland
>> Harvey has asked if we would like to build a structure (barn?) with him in the woods that he operates near Barcombe.
>> We decided this would be a nice thing to do.  We can expect to have use of the structure and could build something simple with a few days work. One to cut the poles in the woods, one to erect the structure, one to do the roof.
>> Action points -
>> *Avery and Lenny go look at the woods for suitable timber/site
>> *Avery price up screws etc. for the barn building
>> 
>> Preston Park woods
>> Marion (the owner) has been away quite a bit but should be back now.  Spences' ideas should be of interest as she considered having some burials on there a good way to protect the site from developers.  We had a look at land registry maps and discussed the fact that the relatively small space available is going to limit burials and/or other activities there. 
>> Action point-
>> *Spence and Avery to talk to Marion about her site 
>> 
>> Rapoports woodland
>> We have the potential to get some long ash poles and a long spruce pole from a woodland near Gatwick.  Any interest??  
>>  
>> Shop space in Lewis High Street
>> Avery has been exploring paying for a bit of wall space in a new garden centre/shop on Lewis High Street where we could promote the project.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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