[Solar-general] [OT] Copyleft: V. I. Lenin Internet Archive (www.marx.org) 2002

Vie Jul 18 22:09:47 CEST 2008

El Viernes, 18 de Julio de 2008 22:17, Diego Saravia escribió:
 | 2008/7/18 Marcos Guglielmetti <marcospcmusica en gmail.com>:
 | > a ver...
 | >
 | > no digo que esté de acuerdo con sus métodos, pero estas medidas
 | > sí searían las de un gobierno popular (es una carta de Lenin a
 | > los revolucionarios alemanes que conformaron la -desconocida-
 | > república soviética de Bavaria durante un tiempito en 1919):
 |
 | aja, crees que estan dadas las condiciones objetivas para tomar
 | esas medidas?

Claro que no (disculpen las molestias, estamos trabajando para eso).

Pero el enorme contraste que existe entre este gobierno que se llama a 
sí mismo popular, y lo que es un gobierno popular, debe ser puesto de 
relieve cuando ocurren cosas como el triunfo de la derecha agraria en 
pos de conservar sus privilegios.

Por eso decía en otro mail, y en tantos otros, que creo que las 
sociedades pueden liberarse a sí mismas sólo si eso es lo que desean, 
y por eso tampoco estoy de acuerdo con Lenin... pero si Kirchner 
fuera Lenin, lucharía a su lado por un tiempo: no lo dudes.

PD: me encanta que en marx.org publiquen bajo la GPL, es genial y 
tiene toda la coherencia que necesitan este tipo de manifestaciones.

 | > V. I. Lenin
 | > Message Of Greetings To The Bavarian Soviet Republic
 | >
 | > Delivered: 27 April, 1919
 | > First Published: Pravda No. 111, April 22, 1930; Published
 | > according to the manuscript
 | > Source: Lenin's Collected Works, 4th English Edition, Progress
 | > Publishers, Moscow, 1972 Volume 29, pages 325-326
 | > Translated: George Hanna
 | > Transcription/HTML Markup: David Walters & Robert Cymbala
 | > Copyleft: V. I. Lenin Internet Archive (www.marx.org) 2002.
 | > Permission is granted to copy and/or distribute this document
 | > under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License
 | >
 | >
 | > We thank you for your message of greetings, and on our part
 | > whole heartedly greet the Soviet Republic of Bavaria. We ask you
 | > insistently to give us more frequent, definite information on
 | > the following. What measures have you taken to fight the
 | > bourgeois executioners, the Scheidernanns and Co.; have councils
 | > of workers and servants been formed in the different sections of
 | > the city; have the workers been armed; have the bourgeoisie been
 | > disarmed; has use been made of the stocks of clothing and other
 | > items for immediate and extensive aid to the workers, and
 | > especially to the farm labourers and small peasants; have the
 | > capitalist factories and wealth in Munich and the capitalist
 | > farms in its environs been confiscated; have mortgage and rent
 | > payments by small peasants been cancelled; have the wages of
 | > farm labourers and unskilled workers been doubled or trebled;
 | > have all paper stocks and all printing-presses been confis-cated
 | > so as to enable popular leaflets and newspapers to be printed
 | > for the masses; has the six-hour working day with two or
 | > three-hour instruction in state administration been introduced;
 | > have the bourgeoisie in Munich been made to give up surplus
 | > housing so that workers may be immediately moved into
 | > comfortable flats; have you taken over all the banks; have you
 | > taken hostages from the ranks of the bourgeoisie; have you
 | > introduced higher rations for the workers than for the
 | > bourgeoisie; have all the workers been mobilised for defence and
 | > for ideological propaganda in the neighbouring villages? The
 | > most urgent and most extensive implementation of these and
 | > similar measures, coupled with the initiative of workers', farm
 | > labourers' and— ;acting apart from them— ;small peasants'
 | > councils, should strengthen your position. An emergency tax must
 | > be levied on the bourgeoisie, and an actual improvement effected
 | > in the condition of the workers, farm labourers and small
 | > peasants at once and at all costs.
 | >
 | > With sincere greetings and wishes of success.
 | >
 | > Lenin
 | >
 | >
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