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Mar Mayo 6 15:45:30 CEST 2014

Do you prefer if we do the translation right into the Wiki? We also have
the option of using Pads. I tried dividing the document into six parts to
help the managing of the content and the process of reviewing:

http://floksociety.titanpad.com/1
http://floksociety.titanpad.com/2
http://floksociety.titanpad.com/3
http://floksociety.titanpad.com/4
http://floksociety.titanpad.com/5
http://floksociety.titanpad.com/6

This platform gets buggy sometimes but it may work. I'm already adding the
translated bits so that we don't duplicated efforts.

After this, we need to call for help from our volunteers to finish it.
Given the fact that practically a 30-40% of it seems translated, the whole
document can be finished in a couple of days with enough help and then it
can be reviewed in order to get a high-quality translation.

On 6 May 2014 06:57, Michel Bauwens <michel en p2pfoundation.net> wrote:

> we are making substantial progress, with Andres Delgado having translated
> a substantial portion, see
> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan#Status_Update
>
> David Vila is helping to coordinate the translation effort internally, and
> is in cc,
>
> Michel
>
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Agustin Baeza <agustin.baeza en gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. IÂ´m not very experimented in working in collaborative
>> issues, but IÂ´m joined to the effort of translating. So, just waiting for
>> the start timeâ€¦
>>
>> AgustÃn
>> El 06/05/2014, a las 00:13, Michel Bauwens <michel en p2pfoundation.net>
>> escribiÃ³:
>>
>> Dear Emilio,
>>
>> this version could be used to have (sub/title to sub/title pieces),
>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan
>>
>> 3 micro-pieces have been given to volunteer translators, i.e. until, but
>> not included
>>
>>
>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan#The_second_model:_Netarchical_Capitalism_based_on_the_control_of_networked_platforms
>>
>> if you know of any translation platform that is better, that is of course
>> fine for me,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Emilio Velis <contacto en emiliovelis.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Alright, so maybe tonight we can separate the document in pieces and
>>> post them online. We can gather people to participate during the following
>>> week and work on it to have it finished in two weeks, hopefully.
>>>
>>> I think we'll need to start another line of emails with this info in
>>> Spanish to draw attention to those colleagues who may have overlooked this
>>> email for it being in English. Even if people on this list don't have
>>> experience as translators they can certainly help (translation on a
>>> collaborative environment requires more hands and less expertise) or they
>>> can help us spread the word to find people interested in helping.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 May 2014 14:21, Michel Bauwens <michel en p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi emilio, great to have you as a reviewer,
>>>>
>>>> for the moment to view volunteers to do it in time, but in any case a
>>>> reviewer will be essential for the final version
>>>>
>>>> and bruno, of course a Portuguese-language version would be great, and
>>>> the deadline there would be much more relaxed,
>>>>
>>>> Michel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Bruno Freitas <bfreitas en gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you guys think/wish to translate it to portuguese? I can help with
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Em 05/05/2014 17:32, "Bernardo GutiÃ©rrez" <bernardobrasil en gmail.com>
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge, emilio, Michel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LetÂ´s do it.
>>>>>> Pensemos bien y podemos organizar un texto republicable, copypaste,
>>>>>> formado colectivamente por P2P List o lo que sea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AcÃ¡ estoy para lo que haga falta
>>>>>> Bernardo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-05-05 13:54 GMT-03:00 Emilio Velis <contacto en emiliovelis.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or we just paste it on a PAD and organize a translationsprint. I've
>>>>>>> done it before and it can be finished in matter of hours. I think Bernardo
>>>>>>> could be the kind of person to organize this feat in matter of a short
>>>>>>> amount of time and that way everyone can work on the same documents at the
>>>>>>> same time and at their own pace.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michel, I'd love to help as a reviewer/editor for the text to finish
>>>>>>> it with good quality. Let me know what you think of the idea!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5 May 2014 10:08, Michel Bauwens <michel en p2pfoundation.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok, great jorge, let me know!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Jorge Toledo <
>>>>>>>> jtg en ecosistemaurbano.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Michel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That sounds good to me. I can work on an article introducing the
>>>>>>>>> whole project and then publish it together with a call for volunteer
>>>>>>>>> translators or, even better, a simple "how to get involved" guide. What do
>>>>>>>>> you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will go through the documentation you just linked here and I
>>>>>>>>> will let you know if I have any questions or need something else.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jorge toledo | ecosistema urbano
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2014-05-05 15:53 GMT+02:00 Michel Bauwens <
>>>>>>>>> michel en p2pfoundation.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dear Jorge,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at this stage, I would prefer to start in spanish, and to also
>>>>>>>>>> appeal for volunteer translators,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> your help is much appreciated, tell me how I can help,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Jorge Toledo <
>>>>>>>>>> jtg en ecosistemaurbano.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the info, Michel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to publish something about it on
>>>>>>>>>>> www.ecosistemaurbano.org.
>>>>>>>>>>> I can do it in English or Spanish.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> jorge toledo | ecosistema urbano
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-05-04 16:37 GMT+02:00 Michel Bauwens <
>>>>>>>>>>> michel en p2pfoundation.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> dear friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I woulld like to gather support for the publication of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first integrated transition program to a commons-based society
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This transition plan was commissioned by Ecuador and will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by more than a dozen policy frameworks to enable the creation
>>>>>>>>>>>> of open commons in every domain of social activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The main document is here,
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan (the first
>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph explains the institutional background of the project)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and this is a version that is open to commentary and
>>>>>>>>>>>> participation:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://floksociety.co-ment.com/text/xMHsm6YpVgI/view/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> General info on the project is at floksociety.org ; the policy
>>>>>>>>>>>> proposals are here at (https://floksociety.co-ment.com/text
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate if you could spread this in your
>>>>>>>>>>>> networks, as this is the first example of its kind,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The fight is far from over, and there is a distinct danger that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the project would take a pragmatic turn around some token initiatives,
>>>>>>>>>>>> while ignoring the cultural change that needs to take place around
>>>>>>>>>>>> generative commons. A spanish translation to the framework document has not
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet been guaranteed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By spreading awareness of the commons transition framework you
>>>>>>>>>>>> would contribute to the awareness of the context of the proposed changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michel Bauwens, (FLOK research director)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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