[P2P-es] Ecuador as a state form, the proposal for a Partner State...

Vie Jul 18 01:59:09 CEST 2014

Am 7/17/2014 2:30 PM, schrieb Quiliro Ordóñez Baca:> ...
 > I have removed CC of the Spanish mailing list. I will keep the CC
 > to the English mailing list even though I am not allowed to subscribe
 > to that list. I will give it a chance to be inclusive and avoid
 > censorship.

Dear Quiliro,

you are excluded from the P2P-F=list in english? Is that true and i have 
understand it correctly? It is unbelievably for me. And never i will 
accept this stupid action.

James is the coordinator of this list. I hope, he can explain this on 
this list and for the receivers of this mail. Perhaps, it is a technical 
problem. But you, Quiliro, can explain it in more detail.

I don't understand, what is going on in the sphere of P2P and free 
commons. We see so much stupidity in this environment. Not only in Ecuador.

> My personal experience is that the state has protected me as well as
> attacked me. I think that the "comuna" could be as evil as the state but
> with less power if I am a minority. Even more, I have anonymity from the
> state (before surveillance of course) which I do not have in the "comuna".
>

I know it from Europe and in particular in Germany. The young people fly 
in the anonymity. But it is a big illusion. Never you will find 
anonymity and never you can live in anonymity.

Also in our comunal environment we need the "unity in diversity". The 
freedom to act with our specific creativity based on our general unity. 
I know, that some local communities can be very closed, very reduced in 
her cultural and philosophical space. But this is more a reaction as a 
result from continuous external paternalism. It is never a typical 
relation in small local communities.

My experince with local communities in Latin America is very different 
to that of Germany and the german language space. And now we see also in 
the german language space, that the most power for an open discussion to 
our future comes from the small communities environment and never from 
the state institutions or the regional organisations.

many greetings, willi
Bogota, Colombia