[P2P-F] an update on important publications by the P2P Foundation

Sat Mar 9 16:36:27 CET 2019

I completely disagree with this assessment, and it would have to be
documented where that is the case ...

there has never been a great singularity in our work,

we also worked with existing prefigurative seed forms and how to integrate
them to achieve more radical structure-changing outcomes and always thought
socio-technical infrastructures are part of that change,

we never conflate price with value for example, it's simply not in there ;
actually, I don't even think we talk about price in that report; we argue
for value sovereignty, multiple streams of value, coins that represents
resource volumes (no price representing market value etc.. ) ; we are in
favour of keeping the commons free of exchange value (while documenting
those that think and practice differently), talk about non-financialized
thermo-dynamic accounting etc ...

for each of your points, I could argue similarly, i.e. we are not
objectivist but integral, the research method of the p2p lab is
action-research based, we stress everywhere that technology is not a
solution but a function of the communal and societal values, and the
behaviorist tone is about reporting what techno-libertarians are doing and
how we could do it differently (but yes, incentives do matter in driving
human behaviour)

so I'm not a psycho-therapist either, but it sounds a lot like projection,
.i.e. someone reading lots of things in the text that there simply not
there,

dear Stacco,

in another email, James asks to be removed from this mailing list and I'm
assuming he means 'visioning', so thanks for obliging,

Michel

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:02 PM <jbquilligan3 at charter.net> wrote:

> Dear Michel et al
>
> Just an observation. I find it interesting how P2PF has drifted so deeply
> into objectivism, including its research methods, technocratic worldview
> and behaviorist tone. One wonders now who your target audience has actually
> become -- you seem to have gone from peer-to-peer humanism to antiseptic
> empiricism with unconscious abandon.
>
> I'm not a psychotherapist, but I see that P2PF still conflates price with
> value in most of its analysis, which means that your authors have not shed
> the (Freudian) reality principle of marginal utility theory in
> neo-classical economics, which is the persistent cause of capitalist
> overdetermination in social and ecological repression.
>
> Where is the Great Singularity in your work now? Who are the activists you
> hope to inspire? Or are you unconsciously using post-modernist analysis to
> further entrench the commons as a microeconomic religion and belying the
> commitment of your peers to equality and sustainability? Sad to say, I may
> as well be reading Hume or von Hayek for the sensory marvels of the price
> system.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Michel Bauwens"
> To: "p2p-foundation", "Michel Visioning Bauwens", "Research stream email
> of P2P Foundation"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday March 4 2019 6:37:48AM
> Subject: an update on important publications by the P2P Foundation
>
>
> We have several things cooking at the P2P Foundation which is aligned with
> your work!
>
> The first is an english book (being translated in Korean, and perhaps also
> in French soon), that summarizes our work in the last ten years, in look at
> how productive commons-based communities engage with generative market
> forms, and with facilitating public authorities, both at the micro-level,
> as actual practice, and how that let's us imagine a reformed civilization
> that can deal with social justice and ecological balance,
>
> See
> <https://www.commonslabantwerpen.org/activiteiten/2019/3/4/michel-bauwens-vasilis-kostakis-amp-alex-pazaitis-p2p-foundation-nbspbook-launch-peer-to-peer-the-commons-manifesto-university-of-westminster-press>
> https://www.commonslabantwerpen.org/activiteiten/2019/3/4/michel-bauwens-vasilis-kostakis-amp-alex-pazaitis-p2p-foundation-nbspbook-launch-peer-to-peer-the-commons-manifesto-university-of-westminster-press,
> for our official launch in London on 21/3 (launch in Ghent on 23/3)
>
> Our other great project is the one you contributed to finding funding. In
> essence, it takes the donut of Kate Raworth, and seeks a concrete
> instantiation of it by presenting a configuration of socio-technical
> systems that can be both socially predistributive (equity embedded through
> contributive accounting) and ecologically stable (in the context of course,
> of destabilizing climate change).
>
> It won't be published officially before mid-May but the final text and
> graphs are ready in google doc,
>
> see here for a summary and links to the google docs:
> <https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Accounting_for_Planetary_Survival>
> https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Accounting_for_Planetary_Survival
>
> Finally, I am 'list-pusher' for the European elections as MEP for the
> flemish Greens. While it is in principle a un-electable position, I see it
> as a opportunity for bringing the commons message and solution-space across
> a wider audience.
>
> I'm hoping to get a bit more of dedicated attention to our work, and any
> assistance would be appreciated
>
> Michel Bauwens
>
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