[P2P-F] positioning ourselves in the global civil war

[Michel Bauwens]

that's what we are working on , ain't it ? <g>

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:59 AM Bob Haugen <bob.haugen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Example today of a wonderfully cooperative open-source dev who got
> shat on for a couple of hours by some brogrammers.
>
> He was amazingly patient trying to get people to be polite, but asking
> for politeness from brogrammers signals weakness.
>
> We have different camps in the cognitive working class. Humans became
> humans because they could cooperate better than the alpha male apes.
> If this is a shooting war, or even an electronic DOSing war (which I
> expect), what is the effective form of organization that will allow
> the more-cooperative to survive, along with the planet?
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Haugen <bob.haugen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I read the articles and have been following John Boyd and his acolytes
> > (eg John Robb) since the old distributed objects mailing list.
> >
> > Thinking about how to respond. There's some dissonance with the P2PF
> > idea that the "‘cognitive working class is at the forefront of social
> > change today..." since the pepes and the bros have a big following
> > there. Unless the cognitive working class is at the forefront of the
> > global civil war on both sides...
> >
> > In the meantime, I'd be really interested in more explanation of JB's
> > comment below. Esp "the Great Singularity between technology and
> > biology" and "the qualitative diversity of decentralized
> > alternatives".
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 9:21 PM,  <jbquilligan3 at charter.net> wrote:
> >> this is excellent, however, he is dead wrong about the sustainability of
> >> innovation during a global war for natural resources and he evidently
> knows
> >> nothing at all about ecology, which is the modal expression of his
> vaunted
> >> interactive Digital media
> >>
> >> yes, we are witnessing the default to decentralization presently, but
> the
> >> author has no vision whatsoever of the Great Singularity between
> technology
> >> and biology and for this reason he is unable to see the qualitative
> >> diversity of decentralized alternatives
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >>
> >> From: "Michel Bauwens"
> >> To: "p2p-foundation"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 6:27:46AM
> >> Subject: positioning ourselves in the global civil war
> >>
> >>
> >> this article by Jordan Greenhall merits a slow, thoughtful and perhaps
> more
> >> than once, reading,
> >>
> >> this article about the larved civil war between the 'Blue Church'
> >> (neoliberal establishment , including its progressive allies) and the
> Red
> >> Insurgency (anti-globalist populists) is also a war of epistemologies
> and
> >> methodlogies. But this begs for a third force, i.e. a progressive use of
> >> collective intelligence for fair and sustainable cosmo-local
> civilisation.
> >>
> >>
> https://medium.com/deep-code/situational-assessment-2018-the-calm-before-the-storm-5a0bd014ec84
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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