<div dir="ltr">that's what we are working on , ain't it ? <g></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:59 AM Bob Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Example today of a wonderfully cooperative open-source dev who got<br>
shat on for a couple of hours by some brogrammers.<br>
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He was amazingly patient trying to get people to be polite, but asking<br>
for politeness from brogrammers signals weakness.<br>
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We have different camps in the cognitive working class. Humans became<br>
humans because they could cooperate better than the alpha male apes.<br>
If this is a shooting war, or even an electronic DOSing war (which I<br>
expect), what is the effective form of organization that will allow<br>
the more-cooperative to survive, along with the planet?<br>
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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I read the articles and have been following John Boyd and his acolytes<br>
> (eg John Robb) since the old distributed objects mailing list.<br>
><br>
> Thinking about how to respond. There's some dissonance with the P2PF<br>
> idea that the "‘cognitive working class is at the forefront of social<br>
> change today..." since the pepes and the bros have a big following<br>
> there. Unless the cognitive working class is at the forefront of the<br>
> global civil war on both sides...<br>
><br>
> In the meantime, I'd be really interested in more explanation of JB's<br>
> comment below. Esp "the Great Singularity between technology and<br>
> biology" and "the qualitative diversity of decentralized<br>
> alternatives".<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 9:21 PM, <<a href="mailto:jbquilligan3@charter.net" target="_blank">jbquilligan3@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> this is excellent, however, he is dead wrong about the sustainability of<br>
>> innovation during a global war for natural resources and he evidently knows<br>
>> nothing at all about ecology, which is the modal expression of his vaunted<br>
>> interactive Digital media<br>
>><br>
>> yes, we are witnessing the default to decentralization presently, but the<br>
>> author has no vision whatsoever of the Great Singularity between technology<br>
>> and biology and for this reason he is unable to see the qualitative<br>
>> diversity of decentralized alternatives<br>
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>> From: "Michel Bauwens"<br>
>> To: "p2p-foundation"<br>
>> Cc:<br>
>> Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 6:27:46AM<br>
>> Subject: positioning ourselves in the global civil war<br>
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>> this article by Jordan Greenhall merits a slow, thoughtful and perhaps more<br>
>> than once, reading,<br>
>><br>
>> this article about the larved civil war between the 'Blue Church'<br>
>> (neoliberal establishment , including its progressive allies) and the Red<br>
>> Insurgency (anti-globalist populists) is also a war of epistemologies and<br>
>> methodlogies. But this begs for a third force, i.e. a progressive use of<br>
>> collective intelligence for fair and sustainable cosmo-local civilisation.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://medium.com/deep-code/situational-assessment-2018-the-calm-before-the-storm-5a0bd014ec84" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://medium.com/deep-code/situational-assessment-2018-the-calm-before-the-storm-5a0bd014ec84</a><br>
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