[P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] questions re funding of p2p value conference

Wed Jul 6 10:13:23 CEST 2016

I think I understand the distinction Orsan is trying to make between a movement which is headed by experts in the field, and one which consciously avoids leaders, by trying to provide conditions where as far as possible people can be treated as equals. I also understand the difficulties in a 'transitional' situation where people attempt to earn a living based on their expertise, which is seen to have some financial value, by speaking, writing articles, consequently gaining recognition and status, which aids them in earning. 

I don't see a resolution to this except to become as aware as possible of how defensive we might feel, when called to account for exploiting publicity to our own advantage. 

Anna

> On 5 Jul 2016, at 18:26, Orsan Senalp <orsan1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am uncomfortable, especially I really like you in person but also theoretician; I even can see you as sort of a theoretical mentor; but like Marx or Lenin; not as political organizer or a leader; you claimed once (last year) not to involve in politics of this, but now you are in the center of politics.. 
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> I am really glad now, after three years, not to accept your offer to be 'labour person' of p2p foundation; as you formulated then. I really think and believe, autonomy and egalitarianism are the keys, for any alternative world vision to be successful; and labour and other commons to be emancipated. 
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> Yours, 
> Orsan
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> On 05 Jul 2016, at 19:11, Orsan <orsan1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
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