[P2P-F] Micro and nano-tribunes and power generators

Sun Jan 10 15:45:10 CET 2016

dear Roberto,

we would be happy to serialize your findings if you have time to select
parts of your book,

Michel

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola at gn.apc.org> wrote:

> In fact you don't have to go nano or wait for other esoteric and
> untested technologies for renewable technologies to undermine the
> current energy paradigms.
>
> Rooftop solar is now spreading rapidly due to the continuing declines
> in solar panel prices, enabling households to generate their own
> electricity. This creates a situation where they will be sending their
> surplus to the grid some of the time, and getting their additional
> supply from the grid at some other times. Thus, they will be engaging
> in peering arrangements with the grid itself, which are actually P2P
> transactions. At some point when P2P transactions over the grid exceed
> the amount that central power plants provide to non-generating
> customers, the grid will start taking on more and more the nature of a
> public commons. Then we should see the same kinds of debates between
> privatized infrastructures and the commons that have arisen elsewhere.
>
> I also discussed in the paper how microhydro and microwind, by getting
> smaller instead of larger, and if this can result in one or a few
> orders of magnitude price reductions, as happened with integrated
> circuits, can put them in production levels where the economics of
> increasing returns to scale is activated.
>
> By the way, I've written a separate paper analyzing the P2P
> transactions between the grid and solar owners under net metering.
> Those who are interested may google "pseudo-net-metering double-charges
> customers". This may be very relevant to countries where net metering
> is implemented and where utilities insist on charging lower than retail
> price, which results in double-charging. I use very simple math in the
> paper to show exactly where the double-charging happens.
>
> Requiring net metering is such an important policy enabler for
> microsolar, that utilities are now campaigning very hard against it.
>
> A lot of exciting things, such as battery storage costs starting on a
> downhill trend, are happening in the renewables area. I urge people to
> look more closely into this sector, if you haven't yet.
>
> Some of these are discussed in my book Crossing Over: The Energy
> Transition to Renewable Electricity, published last year but also
> freely available online (just google the title).
>
> The sector will also need in the near future new paradigms and business
> models to properly appropriate the new values created by the new types
> of P2P energy exchanges that are emerging.
>
> Greetings to all,
>
> Roberto
>
>
>
>
> Greetings to all,
>
> Roberto
>
>
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 02:47:24 +0100
> Orsan <orsan1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > The title got me think of real micro- or nano-turbine technologies
> > being developed to produce electricity. For instance, if used inside
> > water pipes and ways, such technology would turn entire city and
> > rural delivery and sanitation systems more productive at the micro
> > and nano levels then huge dams and other smaller central hydro
> > electricity generators. Something like this could complete the
> > convergence between energy and communication technologies as in
> > Rifkin's theory, at the same physical level. While thinking on this
> > remembered once seeing a working nano-engine being used at an
> > experiment at CERN at the atomic level. Of course if engine do exist
> > then tribune should also be so. Googled "nano tribune electricity"
> > and found that it does exist, and developed:
> > http://www.nanowerk.com/news2/green/newsid=27983.php
> > http://www.homepower.ca/dc_hydro.htm In case collectively opened up,
> > peer to peer produced, and implemented, these really micro power
> > technologies would not only destroy the state and corporate monopoly
> > over the energy production, but also Harvey's pessimistic argument
> > about we people's being dependent on central structures for the
> > creation and maintenance of large infrastructures and services, as
> > dams, roads, hospitals and schools. If Sensorica, or any open science
> > groups would go towards this direction, it would obviously more
> > impactful than it sounds. Best, Orsan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> > > On 8 jan. 2016, at 23:23, Roberto Verzola <rverzola at gn.apc.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I just finished the piece "Can micropower be as deep a game-changer
> > > as microprocessing?" It can be downloaded at:
> > >
> > >
> https://rverzola.wordpress.com/2016/01/07/can-micropower-become-as-deep-a-game-changer-as-microprocessing/
> > >
> > > By "deep", I mean being able to change the rules of the game not
> > > only within the industry itself but in society as a whole. In the
> > > piece, I note that the declining prices of renewables such as solar
> > > and wind seem to have brought the renewables sector at the same
> > > take-off point that microprocessing was some three decades ago.
> > >
> > > I analyze the developments from the perspective I've been pursuing,
> > > which is the perspective of abundance. I note that these declining
> > > prices, exponential increases in production, and expanding markets
> > > are bringing these renewables into operating points where the
> > > economics of increasing returns to scale start to take-over,
> > > leading to a virtuous cycle of more rounds of price declines and
> > > higher production, the same kind of economic growth pattern we have
> > > seen in the information sector. These are typical features of the
> > > onset of abundance.
> > >
> > > I discuss in the piece what might be the conditions that can make
> > > small-scale generation with renewables as deep a game-changer as
> > > microprocessors have been.
> > >
> > > Greetings to all,
> > >
> > > Roberto Verzola
> > > Philippines
> > >
> > > PS. Those who want more details about developments in renewables
> > > from the perspective of a developing country, you can also download
> > > my recent book, CROSSING OVER: THE ENERGY TRANSITION TO RENEWABLE
> > > ELECTRICITY. Just google the title.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 19:03:57 +0700
> > > Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> see
> > >>
> http://excellencereporter.com/2016/01/07/michel-bauwens-the-meaning-that-we-give-to-life/
> > >
> > >
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