<div dir="ltr">dear Roberto,<div><br></div><div>we would be happy to serialize your findings if you have time to select parts of your book,</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Roberto Verzola <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rverzola@gn.apc.org" target="_blank">rverzola@gn.apc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In fact you don't have to go nano or wait for other esoteric and<br>
untested technologies for renewable technologies to undermine the<br>
current energy paradigms.<br>
<br>
Rooftop solar is now spreading rapidly due to the continuing declines<br>
in solar panel prices, enabling households to generate their own<br>
electricity. This creates a situation where they will be sending their<br>
surplus to the grid some of the time, and getting their additional<br>
supply from the grid at some other times. Thus, they will be engaging<br>
in peering arrangements with the grid itself, which are actually P2P<br>
transactions. At some point when P2P transactions over the grid exceed<br>
the amount that central power plants provide to non-generating<br>
customers, the grid will start taking on more and more the nature of a<br>
public commons. Then we should see the same kinds of debates between<br>
privatized infrastructures and the commons that have arisen elsewhere.<br>
<br>
I also discussed in the paper how microhydro and microwind, by getting<br>
smaller instead of larger, and if this can result in one or a few<br>
orders of magnitude price reductions, as happened with integrated<br>
circuits, can put them in production levels where the economics of<br>
increasing returns to scale is activated.<br>
<br>
By the way, I've written a separate paper analyzing the P2P<br>
transactions between the grid and solar owners under net metering.<br>
Those who are interested may google "pseudo-net-metering double-charges<br>
customers". This may be very relevant to countries where net metering<br>
is implemented and where utilities insist on charging lower than retail<br>
price, which results in double-charging. I use very simple math in the<br>
paper to show exactly where the double-charging happens.<br>
<br>
Requiring net metering is such an important policy enabler for<br>
microsolar, that utilities are now campaigning very hard against it.<br>
<br>
A lot of exciting things, such as battery storage costs starting on a<br>
downhill trend, are happening in the renewables area. I urge people to<br>
look more closely into this sector, if you haven't yet.<br>
<br>
Some of these are discussed in my book Crossing Over: The Energy<br>
Transition to Renewable Electricity, published last year but also<br>
freely available online (just google the title).<br>
<br>
The sector will also need in the near future new paradigms and business<br>
models to properly appropriate the new values created by the new types<br>
of P2P energy exchanges that are emerging.<br>
<br>
Greetings to all,<br>
<br>
Roberto<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Greetings to all,<br>
<br>
Roberto<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 02:47:24 +0100<br>
Orsan <<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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><br>
> The title got me think of real micro- or nano-turbine technologies<br>
> being developed to produce electricity. For instance, if used inside<br>
> water pipes and ways, such technology would turn entire city and<br>
> rural delivery and sanitation systems more productive at the micro<br>
> and nano levels then huge dams and other smaller central hydro<br>
> electricity generators. Something like this could complete the<br>
> convergence between energy and communication technologies as in<br>
> Rifkin's theory, at the same physical level. While thinking on this<br>
> remembered once seeing a working nano-engine being used at an<br>
> experiment at CERN at the atomic level. Of course if engine do exist<br>
> then tribune should also be so. Googled "nano tribune electricity"<br>
> and found that it does exist, and developed:<br>
> <a href="http://www.nanowerk.com/news2/green/newsid=27983.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.nanowerk.com/news2/green/newsid=27983.php</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.homepower.ca/dc_hydro.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.homepower.ca/dc_hydro.htm</a> In case collectively opened up,<br>
> peer to peer produced, and implemented, these really micro power<br>
> technologies would not only destroy the state and corporate monopoly<br>
> over the energy production, but also Harvey's pessimistic argument<br>
> about we people's being dependent on central structures for the<br>
> creation and maintenance of large infrastructures and services, as<br>
> dams, roads, hospitals and schools. If Sensorica, or any open science<br>
> groups would go towards this direction, it would obviously more<br>
> impactful than it sounds. Best, Orsan<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
> > On 8 jan. 2016, at 23:23, Roberto Verzola <<a href="mailto:rverzola@gn.apc.org">rverzola@gn.apc.org</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > I just finished the piece "Can micropower be as deep a game-changer<br>
> > as microprocessing?" It can be downloaded at:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://rverzola.wordpress.com/2016/01/07/can-micropower-become-as-deep-a-game-changer-as-microprocessing/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rverzola.wordpress.com/2016/01/07/can-micropower-become-as-deep-a-game-changer-as-microprocessing/</a><br>
> ><br>
> > By "deep", I mean being able to change the rules of the game not<br>
> > only within the industry itself but in society as a whole. In the<br>
> > piece, I note that the declining prices of renewables such as solar<br>
> > and wind seem to have brought the renewables sector at the same<br>
> > take-off point that microprocessing was some three decades ago.<br>
> ><br>
> > I analyze the developments from the perspective I've been pursuing,<br>
> > which is the perspective of abundance. I note that these declining<br>
> > prices, exponential increases in production, and expanding markets<br>
> > are bringing these renewables into operating points where the<br>
> > economics of increasing returns to scale start to take-over,<br>
> > leading to a virtuous cycle of more rounds of price declines and<br>
> > higher production, the same kind of economic growth pattern we have<br>
> > seen in the information sector. These are typical features of the<br>
> > onset of abundance.<br>
> ><br>
> > I discuss in the piece what might be the conditions that can make<br>
> > small-scale generation with renewables as deep a game-changer as<br>
> > microprocessors have been.<br>
> ><br>
> > Greetings to all,<br>
> ><br>
> > Roberto Verzola<br>
> > Philippines<br>
> ><br>
> > PS. Those who want more details about developments in renewables<br>
> > from the perspective of a developing country, you can also download<br>
> > my recent book, CROSSING OVER: THE ENERGY TRANSITION TO RENEWABLE<br>
> > ELECTRICITY. Just google the title.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 19:03:57 +0700<br>
> > Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> see<br>
> >> <a href="http://excellencereporter.com/2016/01/07/michel-bauwens-the-meaning-that-we-give-to-life/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://excellencereporter.com/2016/01/07/michel-bauwens-the-meaning-that-we-give-to-life/</a><br>
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