[P2P-F] PPL (Peer Production License) Discussion List

Mon Mar 31 22:07:56 CEST 2014

i would distinguish the 2 parts, one on the ppl the other with the festival
proposals

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Stacco Troncoso
<staccotroncoso at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yeah, it's a great story, you should totally adapt it for publication (if
> it's ok with Ronan, of course)
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>wrote:
>
>> dear Eimhim,
>>
>> can we publish this in our p2p blog,  as is or in adapted form ?
>>
>> if you agree, please send it to Kevin for publication,
>>
>> many many thanks!! this is a great real-life testimony,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Eimhin David Shortt <
>> involuteconduit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> An anecdotal account on the usefulness of the peer production license
>>> from an experience in the circus/flow/spinning arts.
>>>
>>> My friend Ronan McLoughlin was member 951 of home of poi back in 2003.
>>> Back then the 'jedi' move, the most difficult move that existed, was the
>>> 'behind the back weave'. Today there are over 150,000 members of this
>>> website and, in true networked learning tradition, the art has complexified
>>> accordingly becoming a practical science of geometric shapes, flow
>>> patterns, translations, and patterns while developing a global
>>> supracultural community of practice with festivals, learning events, shops,
>>> jewelery, fashion, and so on. I was a jedi back in 2003, these days, not so
>>> much. Ronan on the other hand has maintained his 'jedi' status, and ten
>>> years later is one of the 'grandfathers' of this collaborative and emergent
>>> art form.
>>>
>>> In 2010 Ronan invented 'contact poi' after a brief encounter with this
>>> potential in a play session with dancer and contact juggler Ed Adams (a.k.a
>>> AnimatEd Adams), it was a simple innovation of the structure of the object,
>>> using rope, a 100mm contact juggling ball, and a juggling club handle.
>>> Because of Ronans 'Jedi' status as a frontline explorer of the
>>> possibilities, and the influence he holds in that community by virtue of
>>> his creative process, 'Contact Poi' became a thing.
>>>
>>> The owner of Play Juggling, a maker and online  seller of juggling
>>> props, contacted Ronan to access the prototypes (admittedly simple) and in
>>> a subsequent commication breakdown, went on to mass produce and sell the
>>> model with no benefit accrueing to
>>> Ronan whatsoever. Ronan is lovely and this doesn't bother him much, but
>>> it bothers me.
>>>
>>> We started together in the practice of object manipulation back in
>>> university in Galway in 2003. We have been best of friends since, most
>>> people confuse us as brothers though we are not directly related at all. In
>>> this last 11 years I have watched him develop this artform, along with many
>>> others, and the community, a collaborative community, that built up around
>>> this process. I find it unfair and unjust that a specialised distributor
>>> should absorb the value created by this man, my friend, and artist, for
>>> something that he has created, and popularized by his influence, effort,
>>> and creativity.
>>>
>>> Had I known about the peer production license in 2010 I would have
>>> suggested it to him, but even though I was familiar with the P2P movement,
>>> and with OS licenses such as the Creative Commons license, I did not fully
>>> understand the global context of production, value, and the workings
>>> of capital. Now that I understand this somewhat, the application in this
>>> case is clear.
>>>
>>> Ronan lives outside Timoleague, Clonakilty in West Cork, at the moment
>>> he is renovating the 'top-cottage' and making nut butters, kombucha, and
>>> kefir, while attending a course on food production in a nearby town and
>>> works two days a week at the family speciality food and wine shop The
>>> Lettercolm Kitchen Project in Clon. I wish for Ronan that he had had his
>>> efforts honoured by the application of the Peer Production License as it
>>> fits the kind and heartful person that he is. Instead, others profit by his
>>> efforts, and he continues creating regardless. Making that which others eat
>>> and sustain themselves by. Hopefully he will have more luck with the nut
>>> butters and holy well water kombucha and kefir (his house is beside a holy
>>> well which provides the house with water).
>>>
>>> By writing this I intend to show a few things. First of all, this is a
>>> clear example of a case for the application of the Peer Production
>>> License among the global circus arts community. Secondly, I want to show
>>> our own insularity in the P2P Community, that we do not educate and
>>> disseminate materials in a way that makes the tools we are developing
>>> accessible, by way of understanding, to communities outside of this one. I
>>> point out above that I could not see the reason and use-application of the
>>> license until I had an adequate understanding of the global function of
>>> capital and the predatorial capture of value.
>>>
>>> In pointing this out again I think it important that we step up our
>>> collective efforts this summer to bring people together at FLOSFs
>>> : Free/Libre Open Source Festivals. Where we educate eachother and
>>> celebrate the value and shared values of our respective collaborative
>>> communities. To this end I have begun work with programmer Matthew Hart on
>>> the 'Cake Chart', a simple tool to legibalise resource and role
>>> distribution in any work. Here the focus of course is OS festival creation.
>>>  We presented this 'made in three days' mock up at a dance event 'Dance,
>>> the body and activism' as part of an appeal to that community to explore
>>> open participatory budgeting in an effort to overcome the divisive effects
>>> of state funding structures in the arts in Ireland, a process that
>>> commodifies and makes a competition of what should be a creative process. (
>>> http://www.bazosoft.com/cake_chart/)
>>>
>>> Earlier today, in the Resilient Communities facebook group I cam across
>>> this article on Open Sourcing Festivals:
>>> http://www.pixelache.ac/blog/2014/open-sourcing-festivals/#comment-2324
>>> And this reminded me of an event I created in Pushkar India, where I
>>> rented a small hotel and ran a Free CoCreative and Participatory festival.
>>> After a short publicisation of the event in Goa at the Indian juggling
>>> convention InJuCo in 2011, I opened the doors of the event and began
>>> cleaning preparing and decorating the venue. Folk asked me (as I hurriedly
>>> lugged, lifted and loaded) "When does it start?". I explained: "This is a
>>> 'Free' 'CoCreative' 'Participatory' Festival, it starts when we start it,
>>> right now I have to prepare the space."
>>>
>>> In ten minutes everyone was up and moving and everything subsequently
>>> was put into place, the venue was decorated, soundsystem set up, workshop
>>> wall built and populated, and from there it began. There were workshops by
>>> day, in theatre, dance, choregraphic techniques, darbooka, macarma
>>> jewelery, belly dance, contact staff, juggling, freestyle rap, acrobatics,
>>> we had camel rides going, free group meals provided in the evenings cooked
>>> up by Khalu Ram the Camel Man, musical performance in the evenings with
>>> Berlin's Ohr Booten followed by group jam sessions and performance.
>>> Friendships were made, people fell in love, later when I moved back to
>>> Europe, to Berlin, it happened that I moved to the same street as the Ohr
>>> Booten crew who opened many doors for me personally in Berlin, I am sure
>>> the same happened for others. My favourite part was the freestyle rap
>>> section where a circle of 16 people, none of whom had ever tried it before,
>>> were taken through the three stages, the Body (beat) Mind (lyrical metre)
>>> and Soul (the full flow) of freestyle rap. We heard voices rap in French,
>>> Arabic, Indian, German, English... This was one among many beautiful
>>> experiences.
>>>
>>> It was a very small festival with only 70 to 100 people, alcohol
>>> and 'drug' free, over 5 days, but this was the best thing I had ever
>>> created, experienced, and enjoyed. The aim was to test the premise that
>>> payment makes way for expectation, passive consumption, and that it
>>> diminishes creative potential. The test proved beyond doubt that this was
>>> the case. People loved it, everyone learned, no one made any money off of
>>> anyone else's back, and so everyone participated, learned, and generated
>>> immense cultural value. Many of those friendships are still going out there
>>> in the world.
>>>
>>> Imagine, and then lets act on what can be done!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License
>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014, Stacco Troncoso <staccotroncoso at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heya Kev, you gotta walk me through the SYMPA-list thing, I really have
>>>> no idea on how to use it (much less administer it!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Michel Bauwens <
>>>> michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> thanks kevin, great initiative
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Flanagan <
>>>>> kev.flanagan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There has been much discussion on the PPL (Peer Production License) in
>>>>>> recent months. To support the growing interest I've created a public
>>>>>> discussion list for the PPL. The list can serve both as a place for
>>>>>> those using the license and for those new to the license to discuss
>>>>>> and share use cases and experiences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.p2pfoundation.net/wws/admin/ppl.discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> record of previous communication, proposals, etc ..*
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - Stacco Troncoso <http://about.me/staccotroncoso>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://about.me/eimhin
>>>
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> --
> - Stacco Troncoso <http://about.me/staccotroncoso>
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