<div dir="ltr">i would distinguish the 2 parts, one on the ppl the other with the festival proposals</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Stacco Troncoso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:staccotroncoso@gmail.com" target="_blank">staccotroncoso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yeah, it's a great story, you should totally adapt it for publication (if it's ok with Ronan, of course)</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">dear Eimhim,<div><br></div><div>can we publish this in our p2p blog, �as is or in adapted form ?</div><div>
<br></div><div>if you agree, please send it to Kevin for publication,�</div><div><br></div><div>many many thanks!! this is a great real-life testimony,</div>
<div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Eimhin David Shortt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:involuteconduit@gmail.com" target="_blank">involuteconduit@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">An anecdotal account�on the usefulness of the�peer production license from an experience in the circus/flow/spinning�arts.<div>
<br></div><div>My friend Ronan McLoughlin was member 951 of home of poi back in 2003. Back then the 'jedi' move, the most difficult move that existed, was the 'behind the back weave'. Today there are over 150,000 members of this website and,�in true networked learning tradition, the art has complexified accordingly becoming a practical�science of geometric shapes, flow patterns, translations, and patterns while developing a global supracultural community of practice with festivals, learning�events, shops, jewelery, fashion, and so on. I was a jedi back in 2003, these days, not so much. Ronan on the other hand has maintained his 'jedi' status, and ten years later is one of the 'grandfathers' of this collaborative and�emergent art form.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In 2010 Ronan invented 'contact poi' after a brief encounter with this potential in a play session with dancer and contact juggler Ed Adams (a.k.a AnimatEd Adams), it was a simple innovation of the structure of the object, using rope, a 100mm contact juggling ball, and a juggling club handle. Because of Ronans 'Jedi' status as a frontline explorer of the possibilities, and the influence he holds in that community by virtue of his creative process, 'Contact Poi' became a thing.�</div>
<div><br></div><div>The owner of Play Juggling, a maker and online��seller<span>�of juggling props, contacted Ronan to access the prototypes (admittedly simple) and in a subsequent commication breakdown, went on to mass�produce and sell the model with no benefit accrueing to�</span></div>
<div><span>Ronan whatsoever. Ronan is lovely and this doesn't bother him much, but it bothers me.�</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>We started together in the practice of object manipulation back in university in Galway in�2003. We have been best of�friends since, most people confuse us as brothers though we are not directly related at all. In this last 11 years I have watched him develop this artform, along with many others, and the community, a collaborative community, that built up around this process. I find it unfair and unjust that a specialised distributor should absorb the value created by this man, my friend, and artist, for something that he has created, and popularized�by his influence,�effort, and creativity.�</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Had I known about the peer production license in 2010 I would have suggested it to him, but even though I was familiar with the P2P movement, and with OS licenses such as the Creative Commons license, I did not fully understand the global context of production, value, and the workings of�capital. Now that I understand this somewhat, the application in this case is clear.�</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Ronan lives outside Timoleague, Clonakilty�in West Cork, at the moment he is renovating the 'top-cottage' and making nut butters, kombucha, and kefir, while attending a course on food production in a nearby town and works two days a week at the family speciality food and wine shop The Lettercolm Kitchen Project in Clon. I wish for�Ronan that he had had his efforts honoured by the application of the Peer Production�License as it fits the kind and heartful person that he is. Instead, others profit by his efforts, and he continues creating regardless. Making that which others eat and sustain themselves by. Hopefully he will have more luck with the nut butters and holy well water kombucha and kefir�(his house is beside a holy well which provides the house with water).</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>By writing this I intend to show a few things. First of all, this is�a clear example of a case for�the�application of the Peer Production License�among�the global�circus arts�community. Secondly,�I want to show our own�insularity in the P2P Community, that we do not educate and disseminate materials in a way that makes the tools we are developing accessible, by way of understanding, to communities outside of this one. I point out above that I could not see the reason and�use-application of the license until I had an adequate understanding of the global function of capital and the predatorial capture of value.�</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>In pointing this out again I think it important that we step up our collective efforts this summer to bring people together at�FLOSFs :�Free/Libre Open Source Festivals. Where we educate eachother and celebrate the value and shared�values of our respective collaborative communities. To this end I have begun work with programmer Matthew Hart on the 'Cake Chart', a simple tool to legibalise resource and role distribution in any work. Here the focus of course is OS festival creation. �We presented this�'made in three days' mock up at a dance event 'Dance, the body and activism' as part of an appeal to that community to explore open participatory budgeting in an effort to overcome the divisive effects of state funding structures in the arts in Ireland, a process that commodifies and makes a competition of what should be a creative process. (<a href="http://www.bazosoft.com/cake_chart/" target="_blank">http://www.bazosoft.com/cake_chart/</a>)</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Earlier today, in the Resilient Communities facebook group I cam across this article on Open Sourcing Festivals:�<a href="http://www.pixelache.ac/blog/2014/open-sourcing-festivals/#comment-2324" target="_blank">http://www.pixelache.ac/blog/2014/open-sourcing-festivals/#comment-2324</a></span></div>
<div><span>And this reminded me of an event I created in Pushkar India, where I rented a small hotel and ran a Free CoCreative and Participatory festival. After a short publicisation of the event in Goa at the Indian�juggling convention InJuCo in 2011, I opened the doors of the event and began cleaning preparing and�decorating the venue. Folk asked me (as I hurriedly lugged, lifted and loaded) "When does it start?". I explained: "This is a 'Free' 'CoCreative' 'Participatory' Festival, it starts when we start it, right now I have to prepare the space."�</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>In ten minutes everyone was up and moving and everything subsequently was put�into place, the venue�was decorated, soundsystem set up, workshop wall built and populated, and from there it began. There were workshops by day, in theatre, dance, choregraphic techniques, darbooka, macarma jewelery, belly dance,�contact staff, juggling, freestyle rap, acrobatics, we had camel rides going, free group meals provided in the evenings cooked up by Khalu Ram the Camel Man, musical performance in the evenings with Berlin's Ohr Booten�followed by group jam sessions and�performance. Friendships were made, people fell in love, later when I moved back to Europe, to Berlin, it happened that I moved to the same street as the Ohr Booten crew who opened many doors for me personally�in Berlin, I am sure the same happened for others. My favourite part was the freestyle rap section where a circle of 16�people, none of whom had ever tried it before, were taken through the three stages, the�Body (beat) Mind (lyrical metre) and Soul (the full flow) of freestyle rap. We heard voices rap in�French, Arabic, Indian, German, English... This was one among many beautiful experiences.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>It was a very small festival with only 70 to 100 people, alcohol and�'drug' free,�over 5 days, but this was the best thing I had ever created, experienced, and enjoyed. The aim was to test the premise that payment makes way for expectation, passive�consumption, and that it diminishes creative potential. The test proved beyond doubt that this was the case. People loved it, everyone learned, no one made any money off of anyone else's back, and so everyone participated, learned, and generated immense cultural value. Many of those friendships are still going out there in the world.�</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Imagine, and then lets act on what can be done!�</span></div><div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><span><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License</a></span><div><div><div>On Tuesday, April 1, 2014, Stacco Troncoso <<a href="mailto:staccotroncoso@gmail.com" target="_blank">staccotroncoso@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Heya Kev, you gotta walk me through the SYMPA-list thing, I really have no idea on how to use it (much less administer it!)</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a>michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">thanks kevin, great initiative</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Flanagan <span dir="ltr"><<a>kev.flanagan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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